The Vaccine

Oh dear. My blood pressure is up and benign attitude to humanity is challenged by some of the posts. Apologies for shouting in capitals.
1) Vaccines weren’t RUSHED they were EXPEDITED - folk worked round the clock, no grant applications sitting in intrays, no struggling to find volunteers etc etc
2) None of the new ones are live so are “safer” for some who might react to live ones
3) the Covid vaccines DO NOT CHANGE our DNA - what have you been reading?
4) anxieties are natural, totally understandable but instead of hiding, read the science.
5) All new vaccines are new
6) Even a lower efficacy helps us as a community- TB vaccine only 70% but transformed community burden of TB.
7) if you are an anti vaxxer or prefer no not take it for other reasons, thank the rest of us, we will protect you.
8) the 15 minute wait rule was often skipped and the Q&A on radio 4 today said that it was likely to only be asked of those who are driving away from the clinic. Anyone else can simply ask for help if they sense something amiss?
9) firemen are lifesavers, of course they can use a needle. I have injected myself in the past, would need a little help to be brave enough to inject someone else. Guess a fire worker already brave...
and so on and on...

Yes Nannan2 agree. Frankly more nervous about Christmas than having vaccine as feel you have to spend time with family and then the risk increases. Roll on vaccine time for me.

trisher

Alegrias2 they were saying on TV the other day that they would use people with first aid training like fireman. I'm afraid I don't think first aid training is enough to administer vaccines.

But it's only giving an intra-muscle injection. It's not difficult!

My son is a doctor and at risk of catching the virus from his patients. He is going to have the vaccine. As he trusts it, I will have it too. Otherwise I cannot go anywhere safely. I hope to have the British one. of course, but they all work. We are lucky to get this free. In America they will have to pay around $40.

Isnt the oxford one able to be stored at 'normal' temperatures?

@Whitewavemark2 completely agree
I have the impression that many of the people who don't want the vaccine are young enough to not be at serious risk from the disease.
I've never understood those who do not have their children vaccinated as babies, unless there is a real medical risk to their particular children.

Sunrising- that puts it into perspective doesnt it,for all the sceptics who 'dont want it' or 'wont have it' or in the 'its my choice' camps -the fact that all those people- yet even more all around the world- who wont be here for another christmas- and they had no choice! And so too for all those moaning they want lockdown lifting to have a day/2days/3days etc to have 'freedom' for christmas- what if it costs any of them or any friend or family member their life?? Cant they just hang on a bit longer till they can have a vaccine and perhaps have a safer christmas next year?!?

I’ll have the vaccine - but as I’m in my 50’s with no underlying health conditions I probably won’t be offered it for ages?

I believe that some of the reluctance may be because it has been developed so quickly. However, this is because so much money has been ploughed into discovering a vaccine for COVID. I will certainly be in the queue to have it!

It has not been tested for long enough for me to feel safe. Also the vaccine has to be kept at a very low temp, I think it was -44, only industrial freezers get this low so how are GP's going to store it, or how can they get it safely to people like me who are housebound and has nurses come to give jabs. I am not at all confident in it. my son who works in NHS says the whole system is a nightmare.

I am more than happy to have the injection 75% is better odds of surviving the virus than none if you don't have any protection. Saying that when your time is up its up so not much point in worrying.

I'm on the trial and have a 50% chance of having had the vaccine. I have not even had a sore arm, and the tickling of the regular swab tests is all the nuisance I've experienced. The regular assurances of negative results has been comforting.

I hope everyone who is medically fit would take advantage of this vaccine. I am happy to provide a transmission block for those who cannot be vaccinated but I rather resent providing reassurance for those who just choose to parasitise other people's immunity and contribiute only 'misinformation' to the rest of us.

Of course. Whichever one I'm offered, as soon as I'm offered it.

I’m type 2 diabetic so classed as vulnerable. I can’t wait for the vaccine. Every drug we take has potential side affects to certain people and most times they don’t know until they’ve taken it so this new vaccine isn’t any more risky than any other. I can’t thank the volunteers enough for trialling the vaccine for our benefit.

I agree Riggie its not going to be a pick and mix. We must trust those better qualified than us and stop over thinking this. I feel happy to see some light at the end of the tunnel and how long long the immunity lasts etc are questions still to be answered in the future. If it means a flu type jab each year so be it is my thought.

Like a shot. Pardon the pun. I have 100 per cent confidence in the development and ratification process. I will be there to take my turn as soon as I possibly can. Just cannot wait for my mom to have her jab and to give her the biggest of hugs. Hopefully happier and safer times ahead. The virus will stick around for ages so let’s get protected and in the meantime stay safe and adhere to rules xxx

Yes - ASAP

I suspect that we won't be given a choice over which vaccine apartnfrom things like allergies etc; Im sure there will be a decision on who gets which made by people who are more expert in these matters than I am.

That's my big concern Nannan. It hasn't been established yet whether the vaccine stops transmission. It doesn't stop people from being infected, but stops damage to vital organs, which is what kills people. It could be that people become infected and transmit it to somebody else, although they will hopefully not suffer badly.

Also i think we should all still be wary of throwing caution to the winds and living life just like before because even if we have the vaccine- we should all still not go back to a completely carefree life as before- folk have jabs yet still pick up different strains of things(my son is like that with flu jab each year) so lets just still be a little more 'mindful' of coughing, sneezing, handwashing, touching everything/everywhere etc. in future.

LinkyPinky

Is there any data on how long the vaccine protects you for, does anyone know? Will we be invited to have it every year, like the flu jab?

There is no data yet. There can't be. We need to wait until people have been vaccinated and some have been tested for immunity at intervals.

Annesixty I had all the vaccines you mention plus a load more demanded for trips to foreign countries. If smallpox was still rife would you be hesitant to have the vaccine. Did you succumb to having the polio one. Covid-19 will not disappear, viruses don't work like that just because there is a vaccine. Why nit try to get professional advice on the subject. I have an 89 year old friend who can't wait for it to allow her visitors, to go out to shops, have a coffee with friends and see her son who lives in another country. She calls it, having her life back.

I am 67 and have had flu every year since I was able to. Listening to many Doctors on the TV saying they have been part of trials gives me much confidence. I have no medical training so I am quite happy to put my faith in them. I want my life back and do not want to be worried if there is an outbreak that I may get a full blown infection. Those that have had the vaccine will be going about their life and others will have to be isolating I imagine. Lets face it its good for us but its also good for the whole community. I keep thinking of the nearly 60,000 people who sat down to christmas dinner last year and will not be here this year. I guess they would have taken a vaccine if it was offered? My anxiety is that they forget me!!!!!!!

BlueBelle

It’s very interesting to see the generational differences
on here the majority of people are totally trusting and raring to go, other forums I m on with much younger people 20/30/40/50 s are way way more doubting and far less wanting to accept the vaccine at face value much more suspicious and I can’t count the amount that have said no way am I having that in my children etc etc

Myself, I feel more trusting in the Oxford vaccine not because it’s ‘British’ but because it’s using a tried and tested natural method whilst the other two are using chemicals, it’s cheap, they are using it not for profit (a huge relief and a huge attraction to me), and it needs no special freezing ...but I suppose we ll have no choice ...if we did I might accept having a jab but not so keen at the moment on the idea of the other two

That's fine because anybody under 50 is probably going to have a long wait before being offered the vaccine anyway.

Is there any data on how long the vaccine protects you for, does anyone know? Will we be invited to have it every year, like the flu jab?