Doctors told to bin leftover vaccines instead of administering second doses.

Kissngate, that is shocking. Such a waste. Could they not start a first come, first served standby vaccination?

Exactly Elegran. And most people I have talked to and seen online would be prepared to attend at anytime. It is only the very occasional person that wouldn't be prepared to go at night.

If vaccinating were 24 hours a day, there would be people coming in for their jab all the time. The "extra" doses would get used up.

My son is a front line NHS worker. His hospital has been issuing the Pzr vac from day one. Every single day plenty dont turn up. You cant reuse it the following day so the hospital start offering it to front line staff. So far so good plenty of Dr.s and Nurses to take up excess. Then its offered to all hospital staff from Consultants to kitchen staff, computer techs to cleaners. Eventually vaccinating everyone at the hospital, which is great. But what happens at 8pm when there are less staff around and those that are have already had the jab. Unless powers that be can come up with a solution fast, it goes in the bin, fact!

Spot on Chewbacca

My GP practice, like so many others, has been using up residual vaccine on healthcare practitioners each day. I've not yet heard of one confirmed case where a GP practice has thrown them away. And it does matter, very much indeed, that unsubstantiated "reports" such as this OP are not given credence and are not repeated until verified. It does no one any favours; including those who perpetuate such urban myths.

Interesting.
A husband and wife in my family were called on different days which made it awkward as they both required transport and it was some distance away.

GagaJo

BUT as I said earlier, we should all just be glad this issue is resolved.

If I could, I would arrange to be outside a vaccination centre at close of play, to get one of the not used doses.

What an excellent idea..... mine is not in a place one would naturally be hanging around though.

Re the vaccine I’ve been told about at least three people (who I know personally). who have been called for vaccination and have taken partner, OH or whatever along for company support transport or whatever and they too have received the vaccine !! Bear it in mind !

GrannyGravy13

On a positive note over 3.4 million people in the UK have now had their first dose of vaccine. Over half of the over eighties have now been vaccinated.

Perhaps half of over 80s in England, GrannyGravy and I'm glad some of my family have received their 1st (some their 2nd) vaccinations.

Whoo hoo GG13. That is amazing! Do you know how many have had both doses?

On a positive note over 3.4 million people in the UK have now had their first dose of vaccine. Over half of the over eighties have now been vaccinated.

The OP isn't blushing Maw. I have just checked back through my GNHQ messages in my emails and the last 2 threads that were deleted were for infighting 'spats' and the amount of off topic comments (racism).

See my comment of 15.47.

biba70 Sun 17-Jan-21 15:43:25
I am well recovered from Covid, thank you. OH never got it- and is awaiting vaccination.
Oh I do apologise for getting that wrong, I must have misunderstood something somebody said elsewhere

I think Yahoo are good because they have articles from a range of sources. Yes, the Daily Heil but also the Telegraph, Times, Washington Post, Al Jazeera etc. I like it because they post the articles from the UK broadsheets that are otherwise behind paywalls. Guardian of course is free online so no need to go to Yahoo for those articles.

I anticipate this thread disappearing very soon which might spare OP’s blushes.
A pity because this is not the first discussion based on a false premise or inaccurate information and statements of fact which are wrong need to be challenged.

petra

Chewbacca
There's a clue in the OP. Yahoo.

I can't look at Yahoo, for some reason the consent box which I need to tick is just off my screen.
Perhaps that's just as well - are they worse than the Daily Mail for sensationalising non-stories?

As if people aren't worried, stressed and indeed distressed enough without more unfounded scaremongering.

GagaJo

Aside from the topic here, which I will not debate anymore. Happy to leave you all to it, I think it is a shame that there is a core of posters on this site that have to turn personal about things. They reduce any topic that they do not approve of to personal attacks which then descend into nasty arguments. It is always the same people and they do it on multiple threads. It is in effect a form of censorship, because the end result (and I suspect the intention) is to either drive certain posters away OR to stop them posting their viewpoint.

This is a site for discussion.

I consider that there are two sides to every story and one poster seems to be ganged up on quite a lot!

I am glad you're back biba.

MawBe- how and why can you say it was fake news?
Because it was, biba

Why would someone like Dr Robert Morely lie?

He perhaps didn't lie as such, biba but there was a misunderstanding, he shot his mouth off on Twitter, the press picked up on it and magnified it out of proportion and made it out to be a shocking story ie Fake News.

Now he wishes he hadn't, seemingly.

Aside from the topic here, which I will not debate anymore. Happy to leave you all to it, I think it is a shame that there is a core of posters on this site that have to turn personal about things. They reduce any topic that they do not approve of to personal attacks which then descend into nasty arguments. It is always the same people and they do it on multiple threads. It is in effect a form of censorship, because the end result (and I suspect the intention) is to either drive certain posters away OR to stop them posting their viewpoint.

This is a site for discussion.

constant goading of course.

I am well recovered from Covid, thank you. OH never got it- and is awaiting vaccination. I did not keep away because of Covid, but because of constant Covid. And a post being deleted for saying 'yes, we are chatting, isn't that lovely' - which was baffling in the extreme.

So those of you saying this is pure press speculation know more than Dr. Brian McGregor? Who states it was an order from NHS England? Is this an allowable source?

He seems to be back-peddling like mad on Twitter, Gagajo. He won't say whether his story is true or untrue but he has been blocked by colleagues, he did not intend to feed the flames and claims the press is now hounding him.
He's not averse to publicity as he's been in the press about other controversies over the years.
He says they are all working under pressure and all want the best for patients which I am sure is true.

It does make you wonder about the power of Twitter and whether or not it is good to let off steam on a public forum or if he'd have been better calmly and quietly getting the facts straight and the course of action clarified instead.

I do wonder at posters who will leap on anything that suits their political viewpoint

Often the same people who criticise the gutter press

Baffling.

petra

I believe bibas post was personal and have reported it as such.

No attack at all- just clear that from last few weeks, again and again- to the point I had to leave for a while.