Having to plead!

What a nightmare *Liljan, hope all goes well now x

That's awful Liljan thank goodness you were there for him. It's ridiculous that GP's are refusing to actually see patients and assuming they can diagnose correctly over the 'phone.

Ridiculous and dangerous.

I hope your DH makes a full recovery.

Liljan I'm so sorry for all you've been through. It sounds as if it was a complete nightmare. Much love to you and I do sincerely wish your husband a full recovery. Please look after yourself too. ?

It seems to me that the decision is influenced by the level of care available at home - from relatives.

My 85 year old neighbour had Covid last year - and was judged 'too frail' for hospital, as treatment would not benefit her.

It was assumed that her visiting daughter would look after her, with the help of the GP and community nurses. Nobody actually asked her daughter whether she could stay to help her dying mother!

i think there are criteria and protocols operating in healthcare now that the general public are not privy to.

Hi Liljan
So sorry to hear what you and your DH have been going through, and well done to you for fighting his corner and succeeding in getting him admitted to hospital, which he clearly needed. Who would have thought we would be in this situation? What sort of GP can make such a decision over the phone?
You can follow this up later after your DH hopefully makes a full recovery.
You must be physically and mentally drained, and I hope that now you can relax a little knowing he is getting the care he deserves.
I wish you both well and please let us know how he gets on.

Well done Liljan

Getting a place in ICU as a senior is quite a feat at present. Even getting a bed.

I am so sorry you have had all this worry and wish you and your hubby the best. All this battling for attention is exhausting.

Since April 2020 doctors have been legally allowed to deny life saving treatment as a treatment! In April 2021 the Care Quality Commission published its guidelines to prevent abuse as learning challenged and autistic patients were being classified as expendable but basically there is a frailty index in operation and anyone above 5 on the index is expendable and at the discretion of a doctor can be denied cpr. The guidelines are only for cpr so the ambulance team after checking your hubby hadn’t presigned any kind of end of life statement, should have taken him to hospital. That their professional judgment was overruled is worrying.

This is my understanding of the system. Others might know more.

Unbelievable ?‍♀️?‍♀️?‍♀️?‍♀️?‍♀️ For you Liljan ?????

So sorry - hope your DH gets well and you feel ok too

Thank you again everyone, it’s good to be able to write this down and just to update, my husband has been told that if he deteriorates any further then he will be going to ICU. They finished working on him at 3am so he’s pretty exhausted.

I am so sorry. It's bad enough watching your healthy husband deteriorate to such a state but you shouldn't have to plead for a hospital bed. What is going on at the moment? A pat on the back that you have made sure he is in the best place and will get the medical care he needs and deserves. Meanwhile look after yourself in readiness for when he comes back home.

So very sorry you have had this terrible time you really have done your DH proud. I hope he makes a full recovery let us know how he gets on.

I'm so sorry that you have had to fight for the medical assistance that your husband obviously needs. I've been in this position too, pre Covid. I often wonder about others who have no one to advocate on their behalf. I hope that your husband starts to recover quickly and is home soon.

Thank you all for your lovely wishes, my husband is comfortable and sitting up in a single room, he was x-rayed last night.
Like a couple of you have said, it was also my belief that paramedics had the say on who they admitted to hospital, but it seems that this vital decision has been taken out of their hands. Another dangerous move. It was said last night that paramedics have been up against this since last March.

The helplessness you had to face was dreadful, but thankfully you saw it through to a good conclusion.
I hope Mr L makes a good recovery.

I thought that was the case as well Liz46 maybe things are different with Covid.
I hope your husband recovers soon Liljan

I thought that the paramedics were allowed to make the decision about whether or not someone should be taken to hospital. I can't understand why they consulted the GP.

I hope he is better soon.

I am shocked that a GP has a say in whether some one goes to hospital not having seen the patient.

I had the opposite case when the ambulance driver refused to take my husband in some years ago as he thought he had flu. He rang the GP who told him he had to take him in as he was not able to be cared for at home. It turned out that he had Legionnaires Disease!

I hope your DH recovers soon.

You have all my sympathy. The problem we had with our daughter last year, was no where as dreadful as yours, but the feelings of helplessness, when someone is clearly very ill, but the GP just will not see them. I so recognise. I hope that now he is in hospital, he will get the best of care and you can recover as well.

Lillian I am so sorry you must be exhausted and worried. I hope the nurses have got your husband comfortably settled overnight and that a treatment plan has begun.

That is so awful. You are powerless, it seems and that GP has a lot to answer for. Hope she is not the attending GP whilst he is in hospital.

sorry to hear of what you, and your husband have been going through.
there have been a lot of inadequacies with GPs in some areas.
at least your husband will now get some thorough medical attention at last.
you need to try to get some rest now. you must be exhausted, mentally and physically.
i wish you and Mr Liljan all the best.