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Bureaucratic nonsense

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maddyone Tue 26-Oct-21 11:41:35

I’m not due my vaccination yet as my six months isn’t up for a couple more weeks. I’m happy to wait till I’m contacted. We’re being careful again now as numbers are up in our area at the moment, after having been lowish for most of the pandemic. However we still have to visit my mother in her care home, which is of course where it’s likely to flourish.

Luckygirl Tue 26-Oct-21 11:40:56

No desire for an exception - just a desire for efficiency in the system.

My MP was chatting to me the other day and he says the whole system is a mess, and the experience of Mr Oops (or similar experiences) are happening over and over again. There are apparently 4 different routes to getting the booster, some of which duplicate each other. There is even a website called Grab-a-Jab, which the local health authority drew my attention to.

PippaZ Tue 26-Oct-21 11:23:10

I think they have thought about many things maddyone but, as there seems to be a shortage of appointments after they have told you to book I doubt they will want to make it worse.

But maybe that's just my experience.

As for the OP. If you are going to shout about your rights it's probably best to know what they are. Six months - who would think that was anything other than calendar months - plus a week. It's the same for everyone so why should anyone expect to be an exception?

Alegrias1 Tue 26-Oct-21 11:22:19

Well I'm speculating, but this is what I think.

You become eligible on Thursday. So I would imagine that the booking system only allows people to book their appointment when they are eligible, so the person on the phone probably couldn't make your appointment for you anyway because the system wouldn't let her.

The alternative is that anybody can make their appointment any time. So people who are only 5 months out could make their appointments. Or should we make that 4 months? Or should it just be a free for all and people can make their appointments whenever they like irrespective of medical need?

Your immunity won't fall off a cliff, like ExDancer says.

"First world problems" means that comparatively minor issues get blown out of all proportion. Its got nothing to do with trains.

Oopsadaisy1 Tue 26-Oct-21 11:22:14

Mr Oops had a text message last week about booking the Covid Booster, when he tried they said that he wasn’t eligible.
Why contact him then?

Luckygirl Tue 26-Oct-21 11:19:50

I am not asking anyone to make an exception for me; I am simply asking that when people try to book they are answered by an efficient system. There is a lot hanging on an effective booster vaccine programme, and it should be made as easy as possible for people to book.

greenlady102 Tue 26-Oct-21 11:16:48

maddyone

I thought I’d seen on the news the other day, that the time from the second jab till the time of the third jab is being reduced to five months in order to get people through more quickly. However I might have dreamt it, so apologies if I’m wrong.

its being considered and "might happen" as might being able to book appointments for after the six months and one week is passed before that point IYSWIM so that there is no delay in getting the vac. As I understand it, the science says that there is no point getting a booster early because the existing jabs will still be working so you won't lengthen immunity...like buying eggs when you still have in date eggs in the fridge.

Luckygirl Tue 26-Oct-21 11:14:23

No - I do not want mine earlier!!! I do not want to move up the queue! I want it as soon as I am eligible, which I will be on Thursday. But what is barmy is that I cannot book an appointment for a date after that....now that is silly.

Concerts and trains are features of the first world - should we none of us go to them because they are not a feature in some third world countries.

I am simply trying to ensure that I do this with the minimum risk to me and to those around me - does that not seem reasonable? For every person who catches covid, more people are put at risk?

I am frustrated by hitting a brick wall with this every time I get in touch, even though I am doing the responsible thing and indeed doing what the government is urging us to do.

maddyone Tue 26-Oct-21 11:11:17

I thought I’d seen on the news the other day, that the time from the second jab till the time of the third jab is being reduced to five months in order to get people through more quickly. However I might have dreamt it, so apologies if I’m wrong.

AcornFairy Tue 26-Oct-21 11:08:24

Well said Alegrias1

ExDancer Tue 26-Oct-21 11:03:11

I don't think you need fret about it, you don't suddenly lose your antibodies from your first jabs after 30 weeks. You'll still be covered. Enjoy your concert.

Alegrias1 Tue 26-Oct-21 10:53:45

Too early to book an appointment, everybody else would be too early too, but because I want mine earlier you should make an exception?

Nah, not on really.

Rosalyn69 Tue 26-Oct-21 10:51:40

I don’t think it’s trying to move up the queue. It’s typical of so much in the NHS. I rang the number provided by my PCC and was offered on the next day. That’s not queue jumping. There were obviously spaces available.

Alegrias1 Tue 26-Oct-21 10:46:14

Sorry, but what I think is barmy is somebody who thinks they should move up the queue because they have a concert to go to.

First world problems.

Luckygirl Tue 26-Oct-21 10:19:38

I am usually fairly even-tempered, but the one thing that really pulls my chain is bureaucratic nonsense.

I am trying to book my booster jab because I will be going away for a few days next month and want to have it and give it time to take effect before then as I will be on crowded trains and in concert halls.

So .... I try and book it via website which tells me to ring 119, which I do. I pass the hurdles of pressing 1,2 or 3 several times and get through eventually to a human being who says I am not eligible because it is not 6 months and a week since my second jab. I explain that it is 30 weeks and she says that it needs to be 6 months. After I spend several minutes trying to explain that this is more than 6 months and a week, I eventually conclude that she is talking in calendar months, which makes no medical sense - but, hey, who am I to argue?

Fine - so that will be this Thursday and she tells me to ring then to make and appointment. I ask her if she could simply give me an appointment for Friday or after, since I am on the phone - and she says she cannot do this - I have to ring on Thursday.

How very bonkers is that?

On the one hand we have the government urging us to come forward for the booster, and on the other we have these barmy rules. Grrrrr.