Black Dog 11

Doodle I assure you that you didn’t say anything to put them
off. I explained and the choice was theirs.

HVDY if I may ask ? Do you ever relax physically?

Claire Weeks books were first published in the 60’s and 70’s and are still bought now. She was the first to speak of panic attacks in detail with out psycho babble.

A panic attack comes from a first fear and a second fear,

First fear comes automatically. Second fear is fear of the first and this prolongs the feelings.

Churning stomach ? carry on , it will calm if we don’t feed it with the second fear.

This I have been doing for six days, churning starts but I try to
keep doing what I was doing when it started, cross stitching and
churning suddenly starts, first reaction is to put the stitching down , no, keep stitching. So don’t feed it. Not easy but certainly worth trying.

I like this quote

‘Strength is not born from strength . Strength can only be born
from weakness.
So be glad of your weakness now , they are the beginnings of
your strength’ .

Annie I apologise to you and the two posters if things that I’ve said have put them off joining us.
Apart from apologising all I can do is to repeat that they will be welcome to join us and I hope they can bring themselves to do so.

I hope your stomach settles. Mine is all over the place too.
It seems to make matters worse when you try and relax but you can’t and the stomach keeps reminding you that all is not right.
I do hope Lottie is on the mend.
HVDY what an exciting afternoon ?.
Good that you have a proper physio appointment booked. Hope that will help your shoulder.
We were going to the hospital for an appointment for DH but that has been cancelled so might go into town and do some shopping instead.
Sweetpeasue no wonder you’re scared and worried. Unexplained pain is a real problem. I hope you do manage to convince the GP this is serious from your point of view. Perhaps your husband could speak to her too and tell her how bad it is. I hope you have success with your phone call.

AnnieI agree with HVDY. You have so much going on right now with little Lottie it's no wonder your stomach is reacting. Hope she is recovering after her op. What is it that Dr Claire Weeks suggests?

HVDY Pleased you've got your physio appt at long last. What a lot you've been through. You must have cleanest house ever! Sure you'd have preferred the Aqua Aerobics though.

EllieAnne Doodle Rafichagran Joce Scaredycat Nonnie Hope you're all OK.

Afraid a bad day and night yesterday. Pain was almost consistent throughout day but really ratched up later. Husband sat up with me and I felt so scared. What the hxxx can it be? Waiting for Dr's call this afternoon. I must make her realise pain unbearable now. And once again--sorry.

Anniebach You've always been such a kind and friendly person on here, and you always seem to know what to say (Much like Doodle). I hope your churning stomach soon settles down. It's a lovely, bright morning. How is Lottie? x

Doodle, SweetpeaSue, EllieAnne,*Rafichagran*, Joce345, ScaredyCat - I hope the day is going well for you all. Is Nonnie back from her holiday?

I went for my 1st Physio appointment. The young man was knowledgeable and helpful, and is referring me for physio at a nearby gym - the 1st appointment is April 29th. I had the shoulder injury last July.... nothing is quick, is it? Not to worry. I missed Aqua Aerobics because of going there today, so I'll spend this afternoon ironing, washing, cleaning up and doing tonight's dinner. Exciting stuff
Love to all x

Hi all x

The PM’s I spoke of were from two people with mental health
problems, they contacted me to ask about Black Dog, they did no harm, they needed help, I tried to explain this on here .

They will sadly not now be joining us , so let’s forget about it.

I admit I am very protective of Black Dog, it has helped so many with mental health problems. I cannot forget the isolation of moving to a house, no telephone, two little ones in bed and sitting for hours alone , very depressed and having
panic attacks.

When I read a post of someone who is taking steps forward I
am such a happy little bunny ? and when I start to tackle the
agoraphobia I know there will be happy little ? cheering me
on.

Churning stomachs? Mine has been churning for 6 days, am doing what the wonderful Dr.Claire Weeks advised , it’s difficult
but it can help.

How is everyone?

Sweetpeasue glad you had a good day Saturday. I used to love wearing long floaty dresses. Always made me feel light and dainty.
Thank you, I am feeling a bit better at the moment although I woke up this morning with a headache and bad neck. Anxiety kicks off in my stomach and then activates my tinnitus and causes neck pain.
Hope Monday brings you some help.
Hope your auntie enjoyed her outing.
Sorry you feel sad today. Do your sons live far away?
My mum died many years ago. She would have loved seeing our children grow up. Thank you for your good wishes and to you too.
Scardycat we have a couple of urban foxes here. Don’t often see them but sometimes hear them at night.
We had a quick walk tonight after our son had dropped in for a bit. Still warmish but not like the last few days.
Rafichagran sorry to hear you have been poorly. Are you feeling any better now?
Sweetpeasue, Annie has posted again to say that the PMs weren’t unpleasant just that people were uncomfortable about joining in on what they thought was an established group. I don’t think anyone meant anything bad by this. Sometimes when a group of posters (like those on the GM thread) post every day to each other they get to know a lot about each other and post specific comments to others they know. For someone coming new to a thread it can be difficult to join in when you don’t know anyone.
We were all first time posters and all are welcome to join in here so if you are hesitating please post.
Ellie Anne it is hard to keep up with what’s going on with each person. I get confused sometimes too.
Thank you for your kind message Scaredycat and the same to you.
Take care all and I hope everyone has a peaceful untroubled night. x

Thankyou, Scaredycat. X

Sending you all love on this special dayx

I have found this group very welcoming and helpful.
I must ad mit I sometimes forget who is who and what is going on in their lives . Maybe I should write it down!!
But everyone is friendly and anyone is welcome. I found it by accident while looking for something else.

Perhaps I wasn't clear or have misunderstood. I thought that it is seen that some posters know personal circumstances of another so may be seen as a clique to others. I'm just saying that I haven't seen this by the posters that's all Rafichagran.

Who said one poster favours another? it's how it looks to other people, and why people have wrongly PM Annie. why are you upset Sweetpea

I really feel quite upset about this. I thought all the posts have been kind to each other and I haven't seen anything that looks as if one poster favours another. I'm not sure if I understand but would appreciate it greatly if someone would enlighten me.

Hi everyone, I have been I'll these past two weeks so have not posted. I hope everyone is well.
I would advise everyone who is feeling unwell or down to come on to this thread it is very welcoming.
I can see why some posters on this thread come across as a clique, it seems to have the same posters, who talk to each others because they know each others circumstances. this is good and what this thread is about, but from outside it may make people uncomfortable about joining.
Please join us we are a friendly helpful supportive bunch of people who will try to help and make you feel welcome.
Annie has had PM's about this, and it is not fair, please stop it. If you come on to the main thread you will recieve a welcome.

I'm feeling sad this morning but I know I won't be alone in this. I will not see my sons today nor my dear mum who is not here. I know that there are many on here who will cope with today in their own ways and I just wanted to say I'm sending my love and thoughts to you. GrannyLaine has posted a very thoughtful piece for Mothering Sunday on another thread. X to all.

SweetPeaSue- I,m sorry you are having such a rough time and hope on Monday you are able to speak with your GP and get some proper help and care- you should not have to suffer as you do. Such a shame you couldn’t see you GS.
In answer to your foxy question we live in a village but I would call it semi rural and as you say foxes are on the increase. My daughter lives in the same place and a couple of years ago could watch the baby ones at play.
Doodle- oh dear the dreadful stomach churning- i hope whatever is worrying you will soon be resolved. I hope you felt better after your walk and got rid of the shivers - it’s so lovely today. I did a half hour one which wasn’t too bad but hurt
towards the end.
HVDY- it is lovely today isn’t it - so good to feel the freedom of bare legs again. I hope you have a good day today .
Annie- me too a stomach person?I cant eat when the anxiety hits.
I hope Lottie is still at home with you and able to have cuddles.
With regards to this thread it has become very important to
Us all I think and for me personally I feel so glad when somebody joins in and feels comforted and not so alone. When I found it I felt very welcome and you were so kind - it has helped very much.
SweetPeaSue - just seen your new post. Glad today has been better for you. I love it when I get a new nightie!! How sad is that?No foxes since I put the cayenne pepper in the daffs!
Love to allx

Hi everyone
I've not been too bad today. We took my aunt out for some shopping and a coffee. I bought a nightie (just in case of hospital stay--no, won't think about it). Been sunny again here.

Annie I'm not sure what's happened but I know, as a fairly new poster, I've been made welcome from the start so I would warmly welcome anyone who would like to share on this thread. I know you said it was started by a lovely lady, Batty, years ago. What happened to Batty, is she OK? I've been wondering about dear little Lottie too.
HVDY Sunny and warm here too. I put a dress on in the garden this afternoon. I have a long one (like Doodle my legs never see light of day either). I only wear it in garden as I really think I look like a granny in a nightie but it's comfortable and anyway I fancy myself as a bohemian gypsy in my dreams!
Scaredycat Do hope you're ankle is feeling a little better today.
Are the foxes leaving your garden alone yet?
Doodle I'm so sorry about your anxiety and worries. I hope the walk you had calmed everything down a little and stilled the churning tummy.
I always think everything is much worse when we don't sleep. It can be a vicious circle as while we lay awake there's more hours for the whatifferies to go round in our heads.
EllieAnne, Joce, Nonnie, are you all OK?
Xx

Annie I didn’t read your post as though the emails were unpleasant more that people were put off posting because they didn’t want to intrude. I hope anyone reading feels welcome to join in.
No Soop’s kitchen isn’t referred to as a gang by those who post on it but by others who see it as some sort of clique sometimes. That isn’t the case nor on the GM thread. Everyone is welcome to join in to this thread or others.

Sorry I didn’t want to upset you by my post Annie or anyone else.

Wish I hadn’t mentioned it , sorry , the PM’s were not unpleasant, I don’t read *Soops kitchen, so didn’t know it was referred to as ‘a gang’ by those who post there,

Apologies to all x

Annie I’m amazed that anyone would post such a PM to you. When have we ever not welcomed anyone.
Sweetpeasue and HVDY are both recent joiners. I cannot understand why anyone should say such a thing.
What about Soop’s kitchen and the GM thread. They are not a private group or gang but it’s many of the same people posting to each other every day. I’ve not seen anyone excluded from either group and none excluded here either.

So if your are reading and you think this is a private group I can assure you it isn’t. Please pop in an join us if you would like to and you will be made welcome.
We may post to each other every day but that’s because we are the only ones here. Doesn’t mean others can’t join in.
Don’t be uncomfortable we were all first time posters once.
You are welcome. Join in.

Annie how is Lottie, I’ve been thinking about you both.
Sweetpeasue hope you haven’t been in so much pain and things are easier.
HVDY I bet my legs are whiter than yours. They never see the light of day ?
Thank you all for your kind comments. I didn’t sleep much last night and had a fit of the shivers this morning.
It happens at times when I get anxious. I’m going through another one of those ruminating phases. The whatiferies.
I am going out for a walk to see if I can shake it off a bit.
Take care all.

Hi all x

Doodle churning stomach? there are head people and stomach people , stress, worry etc causes headaches or
stomach upsets, I speak as a stomach person, have had two
ulcers and gosh my tummy does cartwheels even hearing/seeing things on the news, my daughters and
grandchildrens O. and A levels, my tummy did cartwheels, when Mini Tornado has a job interview my tummy feels it is
going to reach my throat x

This is difficult for me to say, I do not run this thread , it’s
shared by all who post. I have received several pm’s, we are seen as a private group - a gang, people are uncomfortable joining ‘a gang’.

How is everyone?

Doodle Whatever it is that's bothering you, I hope it gets resolved soon. That knot in the stomach feeling is horrible x

SweetpeaSue You shouldn't be in all that pain. I hope the GP will be able to give you something to ease it x

EllieAnne, Anniebach, Nonnie and all in the gang - I hope you all manage to enjoy a bit of sunshine today. x

Son1 has gone to town with his girls, so that they can choose something for their mum for tomorrow (although she completely ignores Father's day for him - I always get something from the children). It's sunny and warm here, so I'm wearing a dress for the 1st time in about a year. I've put some fake tan on my white legs . x

Thankyou Doodle. I will pray for all tonight too. X

Sweetpeasue not a silly thing to say but a kind thing thank you. It’s a long term worry for me. Sometimes ok sometimes not. At the moment it’s a not. So I’m praying hard and hoping it will be ok. I pray for all on the gang believers or not and hope that troubles are resolved for all. Sleep well x

Oh Doodle hope you're OK but silly thing to say, you're obviously not. It's horrible to feel like that. Hope you can find something to destress and relieve the stomach churning. Thinking of you. X