Princess Grace hospital cancelled vital surgery for woman who requested single-sex care

Smileless2012

The point is that having requested female only staff, this patient appears to have been expected to accept a transwoman as female which she wasn't prepared to do.

Fair enough- then had to accept the consequences.

No idea volver, it might depend on the nature of the attack. For me, it's perfectly understandable that a woman who had been subjected to sexual violence in the past, would want only to be attended too by females.

The point is that having requested female only staff, this patient appears to have been expected to accept a transwoman as female which she wasn't prepared to do.

If the patient had been attacked by a Jewish person, would it have been OK to object to having a Jewish person on the medical team?

Shelflife

If people are ill and need treatment, does it really matter? For goodness sake let's be grateful for quality medical care . If a nurse caring for me was a trans nurse I would not care, I would just expect quality care.

Shelflife If you read back in the thread, you will see that the patient had suffered from sexual violence from a male and was afraid of men. She had a reason for requesting female nurses.

You might feel the same Shelflife if you'd been previously violently attacked.

I've recently spent a few days in hospital in France after an emergency op. This was followed by 2 weeks of nurses coming in everyday to change my dressings and to check that I was OK. One of those nurses was a man. As my op entailed a 15 cm cut down my stomach he saw that part of my naked body. He also had to put a very large elasticated bandage/belt around my middle and in the process would have seen my boobs. It wasn't a problem.

My surgeon was a man - again no problem.

Chatting with a friend who in her youth was a nurse. She said that for a while she worked in a theatre where they operated on enlarged prostates. She said the op took about 15 minutes and they would do between 12 and 15 in one morning. Being the junior she had to hold the penis upright for about 5 minutes to allow something or other to drain. She did go into more detail as to why she had to do this but she did say that no one has the right to specify the sex of the nurse.

If people are ill and need treatment, does it really matter? For goodness sake let's be grateful for quality medical care . If a nurse caring for me was a trans nurse I would not care, I would just expect quality care.

Ilovecheese

As I understand it, she had suffered from sexual violence in the past which has given her a great fear of being touched by men as it triggers memories of her attack. I believec it was morecthan just a simple preference.

Yes. She had an important reason. It wasn't a trivial request before everyone piles in.

Fleurpepper

Thanks vovler, no shouting from me, I said more or less the same just before you.

What is it was allowed to only request male nurses or doctors?

I think we crossed posted

That makes perfect sense Ilovecheese.

Saying you wouldn't accept a black or Jewish nurse would be racist volver. Personally, I wouldn't ever insist on female only staff but if I did, I wouldn't expect to have to accept a trans woman as female.

Thanks vovler, no shouting from me, I said more or less the same just before you.

What is it was allowed to only request male nurses or doctors?

As I understand it, she had suffered from sexual violence in the past which has given her a great fear of being touched by men as it triggers memories of her attack. I believec it was morecthan just a simple preference.

Ah sorry, one post then I'm off before the shouting starts...

Does anyone think it's acceptable to say that you won't accept a nurse of any description because you don't accept their "pronouns"?

Would it be OK to say you don't want Nurse X because they are black, or Jewish? Then publish a whole Twitter thread about how you got the hospital to change their minds? If I needed life saving surgery I'd have anybody I could on the medical team.

Whole things gone bonkers.

Exactly FarNorth- there has never been an absolute right to have female, or male, staff only. This is absolutely unworkable.
So if someone is trans-genre, what difference does it make.

I want caring, experienced, well qualified nurses and doctors. Who they sleep with, or decide to be, is none of my business. Are we going to agree with those who only want some of a certain colour, or vegans only, or ...

Our cousin qualified as a nurse in the UK, but back in Sout Africa, could not work in white hospitals as she was deemed 'coloured' by Apartheid.

Everyone understands that female-only staff may not always be possible but if that's the case, it should be explained to the patient.
Teresa was simply expected to accept a transwoman as a female and, when she objected, was told her operation was cancelled.

This is not the hard-pressed NHS, by the way, but a private hospital.

Let's hope it does some good Aveline as it demonstrates just how ridiculous the whole thing's become.

I suppose it was a matter of time before something like this brought things to a head.

That's outrageous how on earth could anyone think this is acceptable.