Dentist going Private

The two tier dental business is a template for what could happen to medical treatment if the Tories mess up the NHS even more than they have done through underfunding and limiting doctor and nurse training places. We have a relatively small private medical sector now but it could easily mushroom into a majority service like private dentistry. Those who can't afford 'plans' or pay as you go would be consigned to the minority state service (if they could find it just as people find it difficult to find NHS dentists now). I don't trust the Tories with the NHS. Too many of their MPs seem to have investment in private sector health activities.

This is worrying. I had a check up at my NHS dentists last week and they’ve had a complete make over. Place has been refurbished and they’re all wearing very smart uniforms. My first thought was ‘they’re going private’. They also, at my check up, x rayed my teeth and I thought to myself, they’re checking for any problems now so they can fix them while I’m still NHS but don’t want to tell me that. I was hoping that, if they did go private they would still see current NHS patients but I fear the worst. They used to combine NHS with private work but the people that ran the practice have all retired. I thought all children up to a certain age still had free dental treatment? My grandson missed out on having braces because he needed them during lockdown and to get them done within the framework needed to correct his misalignment meant they had to pay privately and it has cost them thousands. DH has a private dentist and a broken tooth has already cost him hundreds: I dread to think how much it’s going to cost to provide a bridge or a false tooth when he has the tooth removed next week. How many health problems are going to be missed because people can’t afford to have regular check ups? And gum disease can result in heart problems too.

Our dentist is private, has been for quite some time.

Well worth keeping our teeth healthy.

Oh my, I hadn't expected so many comments. It seems we are all in the same boat.
I guess I will have many questions when I chat with my dentist such as..... How much is a check up and polish on pay as you go, for comparison.
Thank you everyone.

BlueBelle

My NHS dentist takes all of 2 minutes to look in my mouth and declare me ok for another 6 months or at my last check up fira year I take longer payer at the desk but at least I know I ve still got one if I have an emergency

Same here! I haven't had any work done for years and I was told I only need check ups once a year. I honestly wonder whether it's worth it, except (as you say) if I had an emergency, I guess I'd be treated.

We’ve always have to pay and it is very,very expensive. We have insurance but it doesn’t cover half of it. Typically $200-$300 per visit and sometimes a lot more. I had a root canal and crown which cost $3000. He is a really good dentist,though and I am dreading him retiring.

Very true MOnica

My Dentist went private about 20 yrs ago. They kept the Children on NHS.
My Dentist advised me Not to go with Dental plan, as my teeth are fine just pay as you go, or put what I would pay for the plan in a separate account.
I have had some treatment over that time and my bill has never been more than £120 ish.
Check up is about £42, Hygienist £75. I would pay more with the plan.
If your teeth historically have been OK, just pay as you go, I would not change now.

Good post Monica and very true.

I have been with my dental practice for many years now, at least 40 and have had only 3 different dentists in that time and I am still NHS.
The other dentist in the practice went private and mine Is private for all new patients but kept anyone who was NHS on the same basis, I realise just how lucky I am.
He is very kind and caring, I don’t think we are treated any differently to his private patients but I don’t actually know.
At 85 I still have all my own teeth.

All these thread full of people waxing hysterical over the NHS being privatised, which it isn't

Seems to me they would be of better use shouting long and hard over the de facto privitisation of the dental service, where we are already at the point where most of us have no choice other than to pay for dental treatment and millions are going with out dentistry because they cannot afford it.

Our dentist went private years ago. DH had to pay £850 for a small denture. NHS dentists are like hen's teeth near us, an I suspect the NHS as a whole will soon follow. It will be a two tier system. Treatment for those who can pay, and long, long waits for the poor.

My dentist practice sold out to another company before the pandemic, but, fingers firmly crossed, they are still a mix of NHS and private. Checkups are as thorough and take as long as they always have, but I did notice there was no quick polish at the end. When specialist treatment is needed they offer to use the in-house specialist privately or to be referred to an NHS specialist that would just be a longer wait. No pressure and the full price is revealed up front.

My NHS dentist takes all of 2 minutes to look in my mouth and declare me ok for another 6 months or at my last check up fira year I take longer payer at the desk but at least I know I ve still got one if I have an emergency

We had the dreaded " we are going private" letter from our dental practice, just before Christmas, and were swithering for ages about what to do.
I am having ongoing Chemo treatment and so absolutely do need a check up every six months.
I think we will opt for the private route, and stay with the practice, as our dentist is very food, and we have been there for ever it seems.

By the way, one of my daughters uses an NHS dentist and I went with her to sit with her daughter while she had a check up. I can't believe how quick it was! I have done the same for one of my other daughters. It took at least twice the time.
I can't help but think the private dentist was more thorough. Obviously I know they have different sets of teeth but both were just check-ups.

However.. yes. The price!!!!

I've been private now for years. I opted for pay as you go and it's approximately £20 a month unless some large job is needed. I'm quite happy to pay this for an excellent standard of health care

Mine went private years ago.
She said the NHS payment system makes it impossible for the dentists to do more than shove people through. It pays three levels of care (I think 3?) which means that (say) a complex filling which takes a long time and no small skill, is paid the same rate as an extraction (say) which is over in a minute. She said it would probably lead to unscrupulous dentists pulling teeth out that have a chance of a longer life and of only young dentists starting out in their careers working in the NHS.

My dentist continued to treat all children (and those who were totally NHS with no top-ups) on the NHS system because, as she said, that was a compromise and made her feel better about it and that she was trying to help.

She said the NHS system left no time for genuinely preventative work and made being a dentist quite unable to upgrade kit. Previously she had mixed up NHS and private patients and had tried to treat them the same but said the requirements of NHS dentistry was just too "slim" to feel you were doing a good job.

Yes, we now have a two-tier system.
Unfortunately.

I sympathise! My dentist went private long ago and I thought about a local NHS dentist but decided that 'the devil I knew...' I didn't foresee all the complications like a broken bridge and several root canal jobs. A new young and enthusiastic dentist took over the practice and eventually two very old crowns gave up the struggle. So now I have a very nice, very realistic and very, very expensive denture. There's no way of anticipating the unexpected!
I'm in the process of moving to be close to my family and I hope against hope that my son's NHS dentist will have room for me.

The dentist should see you in an emergency shysal

My old dentist went private long ago. The bills were akin to car repairs. Deep intake of breath.

I found an NHS dentist, good at first but ever changing at the practice
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Now the dentist is still NHS but if I want a white filling or anything more than basic, it's extra £100s at least not £thousands - yet.
I'm waiting for and saving for some fancy false teeth being made in Manchester so I can smile again.

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I was very lucky when my NHS dentist decided to go private due to all the paper work. He vowed to keep his prices on a par with the NHS which he stuck to. Unfortunately he retired last year. I was lucky enough to register with another NHS practice in June but they still have no available appointments for a check up. Fingers crossed I don't have get any dental problems.

My dental pay plan is the same as Coolgran ‘s and the 90% payment required for treatments is horridly expensive.
The all private surgery is ultra-modern and the staff wonderful.
I have had some unpleasant dentists in the past so am grateful for that at least.

Where I live we don't have the NHS, sadly and you have to pay for the dentist each time you go. I make sure that I get 6 monthly check ups and have had some quite expensive stuff done in between ie. root canal and crowns. However, if you are going private hopefully you have choice and it is worth finding out how good or experienced your new dentist is. I have a great young dentist now who tries to keep my work to a minimum. The previous one I had I left as he was like a dental salesman and actually wasn't that brilliant after all.