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When to 'go'

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ExDancer Tue 14-Mar-23 14:05:50

My mum always told us not to go for a 'wee' at the first sign, but to hold on for as long as we could because it was 'good for us'.
Her reasoning was that it trained our bladders to hold more and grow stronger.
Now I am older I'm not sure she was right.
What is the up to date thinking on the subject?

hollysteers Sat 18-Mar-23 11:00:36

Wyllow3

Gosh no, for many reasons.

We were taught how to find a bush, with discretion.
It's served me well all my life.

Recently in emergency, in lay-bys I have discovered opening both car doors and hiding techniques.

As long as I can fully squat, which I can, I'll be OK.

re Time for Tena ladies:
I guess few of us will be able to hold it off forever, but I do lots of pelvic floor exercises, if I didn't they'd probably be in the supermarket trolley. I take long term meds which weakens pelvic floor muscles, so cant recommend them enough.

How does one go about the “opening both car doors and hiding techniques” 🤔

hollysteers Sat 18-Mar-23 10:32:54

Just reading this thread makes me want to pay a visit😁
At this stage in my life, I’m paying more visits, which is a blinking nuisance, up a couple of times in the night too.

During lockdown drives, I had a round plastic basin in the car, I sat on it in a quiet place, covering myself with the big tartan car rug and in this elevated position, propped my book on the steering wheel, thereby relieving myself lol. Worked very well, the only noticeable thing being I looked as if my drivers seat was rather high…
Will try the shewee, thanks,

Avalon1234 Sat 18-Mar-23 09:53:32

I started to use incontinence pads during pandemic when going somewhere where are no toilets. They work very well and are convenient. No problem at all when cannot find loo fast enough

PinkCosmos Fri 17-Mar-23 16:44:51

tidyskatemum

I am usually fine when out but the second I walk back through the door at home I desperately need to go. Psychological, no doubt.

According to Google:

'This could be due to a brain conditioning phenomenon called latchkey incontinence. People often have to wait until they arrive home to relieve themselves. The brain might get used to this pattern and start associating arrival home with the need to urinate, triggering the urge whether your bladder is full or not'.

It certainly happens to me grin

PinkCosmos Fri 17-Mar-23 16:36:05

Hellogirl1

Also, I find that the longer I hold on, the sooner I need to go again.

Not quite the same but my DH always says the worse thing men can do if they are out for the night drinking pints of beer is 'break the seal'. Meaning you should put off going to the loo for the first time because once you do, you are backwards and forwards all night.

I am with the DoE - never pass up an opportunity. Even if I don't especially want to go. You never know when you will find another public loo these days.

InnocentBystander Fri 17-Mar-23 16:15:26

A medic on the radio some years ago said always make sure your bladder is never full if you expect to have a car crash! A half kilo of urine lurching around your insides in a bag that is not very strongly anchored is to be avoided if at all possible.
shock

Tamayra Fri 17-Mar-23 09:48:20

No public loos for ladies in Varanassi in India
Indian ladies have strong bladders
I realised it You drink Chai not water you can wait a loooooong time between needing to get home

tidyskatemum Thu 16-Mar-23 21:42:55

I am usually fine when out but the second I walk back through the door at home I desperately need to go. Psychological, no doubt.

Seabreeze Thu 16-Mar-23 20:28:51

Years ago I had a tvt op. They place a piece of mesh under the urethra to support it. I was told to hold it for as long as I could before going. This worked for a few years. I now take pills to stem the flow.

knspol Thu 16-Mar-23 18:36:09

Was told by specialist to never 'hang on' and always go asap when needed. Bit difficult when out and about as so few public loos and many disgusting. Always been a problem for me especially on holiday when I've regularly rushed into hotels or restaurants abroad hoping to find an easily accessible loo.

Polremy Thu 16-Mar-23 17:40:44

Apparently when I was a child and my parents told me we were going off somewhere, my first question was always “will there be a toilet?”

MerylStreep Thu 16-Mar-23 17:38:34

Missdeke
My wheelchair bound friend had one of those. We would often go to a Sunday lunchtime jazz club.
Going to the toilets in her all singing, all dancing ( her words) wheelchair was near to impossible with the crowd there.
We would empty the pouch into an empty bottle under the table and take that to the toilet.

PiscesLady Thu 16-Mar-23 17:24:50

I have an app on my mobile 'where is public toilet' I've not tested it yet though.

SachaMac Thu 16-Mar-23 17:21:12

I always go before leaving the house, (stems from childhood) even if I don’t feel the need, sometimes I can go all day and not think about needing the toilet but the minute I know there isn’t one close by I seem to get the desperate urge to go!!

Lioness57 Thu 16-Mar-23 16:34:58

Ladies get a Shewe they are brilliant especially if out walking

granma47 Thu 16-Mar-23 15:24:52

There are public loos in Lytham St Annes but at 40p at time there are often queues outside the one where someone spent the 40p. Anyone can buy a radar key off the web to use the disabled toilets.

seadragon Thu 16-Mar-23 14:19:45

I often forget to go and, at 73, seem to have experienced no ill effects as a result of this...apart from needing 3 cardiac stents in my heart in 2016.... However, my sister worked on a kidney dialysis unit for several years and nagged me constantly about my 'retention'...., saying it would damage my kidneys! I do 'go' more frequently night but never overnight about which I am delighted....

Longdistancegrnny Thu 16-Mar-23 14:18:21

To remind you to do the pelvic floor exercises you can download an NHS app called 'Squeezy' - my pelvic physio says it has really helped me, she also says that if you squeeze your toes if you can't immediately use a loo it should hold off the urge - can't quite remember why but something to do with the nerves running from your bladder!

HannahLoisLuke Thu 16-Mar-23 13:35:46

I’ll second Mogsmaw in recommending a She wee. Never used one but often thought it would be a good idea.

Sue65 Thu 16-Mar-23 13:28:56

I think your mum was right
People I know who go at every opportunity seem to be unable to retain hardly any urine. They are always needing a wee
The body just gets used to weeing at a smaller volume
Animals don’t wee every couple of hours

grandtanteJE65 Thu 16-Mar-23 12:56:48

I too have always been told that when you need the toilet, you should go. This was, of course, not always permitted in my school-days, but they are long since over.

Either going as soon as you feel the need is healthier, as I have not yet been subject either to infections of the bladder or to constipation, or I have just been lucky.

I think the older we get, the oftener we need to wee, so having been uncomfortable more than once when in places were there were neither public toilets, nor convenient bushes, I bought a she-wee, which I take with me when going out shopping, etc. as using it a solitary tree can provide enough shelter for neither my nor others' modesty to be offended.

Dizzyribs Thu 16-Mar-23 12:53:30

I’ve “pelvic floored” since I was in my 20s and doubled them after my children. Sadly they have had little effect, even after professional intervention.
I suspect “holding on” was the problem. I had a 36 year working life as a teacher, where you couldn’t go when you needed to due to safety requirements of supervising and teaching children. This often meant no chance from 8.30 until 12.30, sometimes longer if children needed escorting to or supervising in the lunch break. My former cast iron bladder has needed the support of Tena max since my late 50s. Couldn’t be without them and my trusty shewee!

Nanna58 Thu 16-Mar-23 12:35:14

Years ago Biglouis I did the same , nipped into the gents before a flight as desperate and huge queue at Ladies .Obviously checked it was empty first . Came out to find Cairo airports police waiting with guns - stupid, but I just didn’t think . Lucky by gestures DH said I was ‘ mentally impaired ‘
Lesson learnt!

Ashcombe Thu 16-Mar-23 12:19:58

Just over five years ago when the Beast from the East struck, I was stranded in my car in a long, stationary queue on the A31, heading for Portsmouth. Grabbing my shewee, I attempted to open the car door but the wind was too strong. Luckily, I had a towel to protect my seat so I could use it whilst remaining at the wheel.

It also proved useful on the same journey during the pandemic when public loos in Dorset were often closed mid-afternoon. Here's a link for anyone wanting to buy one:-

www.shewee.com/shewee.html

DeeJaysMum Thu 16-Mar-23 12:05:58

@dogsmother

disabled only means bigger in my mind, not exclusive.

Yes, they are meant to be exclusively for the disabled, not for just anyone, there's a reason why many have radar locks!