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Koalama Sun 30-Apr-23 11:52:47

As a royalist but also a princess Diana fan, I'm struggling, I can't stand to see camilla crowned queen, I don't want to watch, it's making me less of a royalist, I wish he'd just pass it on to William and Kate

Callistemon21 Fri 05-May-23 11:36:19

Germanshepherdsmum

So what’s your answer nadateturbe? As Annie says, food banks have been around for a long time. Don’t just say higher benefits and higher living wage - how much more tax are you prepared to pay?

Then prices go up even more.
It's Catch 22.

I do think all children should have a free, nourishing, proper school dinner without means testing the family.
Yes, I'd pay a bit more tax for that.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 05-May-23 11:35:09

To true Foxygloves.

nadateturbe Fri 05-May-23 11:34:37

If some choose to call it that.....

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 05-May-23 11:34:16

So what’s your answer nadateturbe? As Annie says, food banks have been around for a long time. Don’t just say higher benefits and higher living wage - how much more tax are you prepared to pay?

Foxygloves Fri 05-May-23 11:31:06

I agree with Mollygo and GSM - but of course how much more attractive is the virtue signalling and wringing of hands?

nadateturbe Fri 05-May-23 11:28:53

And we still need them, disgraceful.

Anniebach Fri 05-May-23 11:22:53

The first food bank opened in 2000

nadateturbe Fri 05-May-23 10:41:35

GSM Will the extra money generated benefit those using food banks?

Callistemon21 Thu 04-May-23 20:50:22

Vintagenonna

My mind is on the food banks struggling to feed the poorest while the bill for this mounts up and up.

At least the roman emperors gave bread along with circuses.

Are you volunteering on Monday vintagenonna?
It sounds like a really good idea and the hope is more people will enjoy it and continue.

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/food-charities-big-help-out-volunteers-coronation-b1078284.html

Mollygo Thu 04-May-23 20:44:20

No GSM I don’t think they would, any more than they would if we stopped having a monarchy. The rich would still be rich, with the knowledge of how to protect their riches rather than hand them over.
The same way that no one on GN is ever likely to give up something they’ve inherited or bought because they can afford to buy / have it regardless of the poverty of others.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 04-May-23 19:48:15

And how are people using food banks disadvantaged by the coronation? It’s predicted to bring upwards of £2bn into the economy. Hospitality is predicted to benefit by £1bn. Do you seriously think that people using food banks would benefit if the coronation didn’t happen?

Vintagenonna Thu 04-May-23 19:06:46

My mind is on the food banks struggling to feed the poorest while the bill for this mounts up and up.

At least the roman emperors gave bread along with circuses.

Anniebach Thu 04-May-23 18:34:21

Who said they were

Susynan Thu 04-May-23 18:15:04

Anniebach

Megan was in her 30’s divorced and living with someone, Kate
was a teenage university student

Teenage Uni students are not always virgins grin

Iam64 Thu 04-May-23 16:32:19

LondonMzFitz - I’m watching with a friend, she’s a republican also a historian. The historical significance means we can settle down and watch the kings horses and men, comment on the clothes and hats and generally indulge superficiality.m there will be cake and I may join your toast to diana

Anniebach Thu 04-May-23 13:48:56

You think she shoul push ahead ?

LondonMzFitz Thu 04-May-23 13:43:53

Anniebach

Megan was in her 30’s divorced and living with someone, Kate
was a teenage university student

I don't understand the point you are trying to make here.

From what I know, Meghan wasn't living with someone when she met Harry.
In her 30's - Yes.
Divorced - Yes.
Living with someone? They were, as I understand it, both single when they met.

Kate and William were living together at University aged, what, 21? - shared a flat with 2 friends, so press reports say.

Glorianny Thu 04-May-23 13:43:05

I said she looked like a 1950s housewife the way she trailed after William. She does. Her smile makes me think of Stepford Wives-it's scary.
No idea about her morals.

Anniebach Thu 04-May-23 13:39:25

Yes you criticised Kate, called her a 1950’s housewife

Glorianny Thu 04-May-23 13:36:28

Kate was 29 when she married William. Meghan 36 when she married Harry. But as I said one is criticised the other lauded for their different lifestyles. Women involved with the RF are still spoken about in derogatory terms if they don't meet particular standards

Anniebach Thu 04-May-23 13:18:43

Megan was in her 30’s divorced and living with someone, Kate
was a teenage university student

Glorianny Thu 04-May-23 13:05:33

Isn't the whole point that that is how women are still spoken about in connection with the RF? And those standards still apply. Hate to bring her in but the comments made about Meghan and her life before Harry are sometimes much worse. Contrast that with Kate who was always waiting for William and so is greatly approved of.

nadateturbe Thu 04-May-23 12:22:05

I too think it's not acceptable to talk about women in their way. We wouldn't do it with men.

LondonMzFitz Thu 04-May-23 11:36:47

Koalama

As a royalist but also a princess Diana fan, I'm struggling, I can't stand to see camilla crowned queen, I don't want to watch, it's making me less of a royalist, I wish he'd just pass it on to William and Kate

... back to the original post. I completely get this. I love the pomp and pageantry, there were several posts on Twitter yesterday showing the bands rehearsals through the streets of Westminster at night, the skirl of bagpipes, just thrilling, and the promise of frocks and flowers for Saturday ...

But - I cannot warm to KC, and I heartily dislike QCC. I dread the close-up's of the pair grinning from my TV, it's making me twitchy just thinking about it.

Yes, it's a Diana thing, she was of my peer group, just a few days older than my now ex-husband.

And a Queen thing - I believe The Queen earned my respect. KC - nope. QCC - absolutely not.

Lots of media trying to whip up excitement, but I think this particular couple, together with the financial crisis so many are experiencing, are hitting an off note for some. Ermine and pearls and foodbanks and strikes, Oh My.

I'm going to be a surly curmudgeon and watch and not enjoy. Well, except for the bands. And the flyover. And the frocks. And I'll probably be really petty and drink a toast to Diana.

eazybee Thu 04-May-23 11:21:44

But this obsession with marrying a virgin was very much in place up to the mid -20th century, when one was warned about the dire consequences of becoming 'that sort of girl'; its importance has subsequently declined, due in large part to vastly improved birth control. It really doesn't seem to matter now, and makes little difference to whether marriages succeed or fail.