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Why are we angry?

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coco12 Thu 17-Aug-23 20:54:31

Is it just me that is finding that everyone is angry at the moment? Including myself I have to add shamefully. There are probably lots of reasons but I feel there has been a big shift since lockdown opened up. Wondered what your thoughts are?

Elless Fri 18-Aug-23 10:11:08

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I agree with Primrose53. This country is in a mess and it is predominantly due to migration and the government's lack of action. The crime rate has massively increased and the immigrants form a high percentage of it, this is a fact.
I know I will get a backlash for stating MY opinion but I am not being offensive - it is how I see things and, yes, it makes me very angry.

Oldnproud Fri 18-Aug-23 10:10:20

Theexwife

For me, it is social media, I get caught up in other people's anger about events or situations, getting angry about things I would have no knowledge of if I hadn’t read about them.

Even on this forum, I feel angry about the views others have, again I would not have known if not for my time spent on social media.

I wonder if this affects other people the same and for some, it carries on in day-to-day life.

I have recently realised that social media is having the same effect on me.

For a while, I was using MumsNet as well as GransNet, but have very recently stopped because of how angry it was making me. I'm not talking about feeling a bit irritated, but full-on anger-induced anxiety-type symptoms!
Posts on there can be so blunt, uncaring and downright nasty, and hatred towards both the elderly and in particular, mothers-in-law, is very widespread.
The trouble is, participating on such sites can become genuinely addictive, and it took quite a while for me to a) acknowledge the damage it was doing me and b) step away from it for the sake of my mental health.

GransNet can still raise my blood-pressure, but to nowhere near the level that MumsNet did.

I suppose I can't blame all my anger on social media, as there are a lot of other things in my life currently that I can't control and that are making me more stressed and more angry than I have ever been before, but it has certainly contributed.

Georgesgran Fri 18-Aug-23 09:57:10

I’m with GG3.
Although not really a reality type of programme watcher, I’m amazed how some of the participants ‘kick-off’ at the least bit thing - a look, a broken nail - it could be anything. It seems to have filtered down and I’ve overheard rants between friends over the most trivial subject, complete with expressive arm and facial gestures.
We’re still a laid back bunch in the North East - a smile and a word for anyone.
Gan canny mind Pet!

luluaugust Fri 18-Aug-23 09:02:07

I guess people do get angry when they realise they can't control anything so much has changed in the past 5 years or so and yes some driving is just awful.

Wyllow3 Fri 18-Aug-23 09:00:48

buffyfly9

I couldn't agree more Coco12; I think Covid, the lockdown, isolation, social media, this hopeless Conservative government and what seems like a tsunami of bad news on the tv has had a detrimental effect on our mental health. Yes, there are little pockets of pleasure and calm when we are with friends and family but nothing feels the same. We live in North Norfolk and now go into our local town only when absolutely necessary. It is rammed with people on holiday and second home owners, most of the small local shops have gone although a few are hanging on. What I notice the most is the standard of driving, it is abysmal !! Everyone seems to be rushing, we see an example of road rage every single time we go out and yes, anger seems to lie just under the surface and it is very sad. I recently had to attend A&E at our hospital in Norwich and every member of staff was charming and helpful, despite being under enormous pressure. Apart from two people they were from other countries so when we pull up the UK drawbridge we must remember how much we have relied on immigration in the past.

buffyfly9 I had a procedure in NHS yesterday and reflected the same about the staff, and how many more died for us in Covid.
The waves of anger directed at the vulnerable need to be re-directed to those in power.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 18-Aug-23 08:53:05

The angry people I come across are on GN along with vox pops on news bulletins and politicians (difficult to tell if politicos are angry or just shouty)

In every day life family and friends are just living their lives the best they can, taking things in their stride.

buffyfly9 Fri 18-Aug-23 08:51:19

I couldn't agree more Coco12; I think Covid, the lockdown, isolation, social media, this hopeless Conservative government and what seems like a tsunami of bad news on the tv has had a detrimental effect on our mental health. Yes, there are little pockets of pleasure and calm when we are with friends and family but nothing feels the same. We live in North Norfolk and now go into our local town only when absolutely necessary. It is rammed with people on holiday and second home owners, most of the small local shops have gone although a few are hanging on. What I notice the most is the standard of driving, it is abysmal !! Everyone seems to be rushing, we see an example of road rage every single time we go out and yes, anger seems to lie just under the surface and it is very sad. I recently had to attend A&E at our hospital in Norwich and every member of staff was charming and helpful, despite being under enormous pressure. Apart from two people they were from other countries so when we pull up the UK drawbridge we must remember how much we have relied on immigration in the past.

Juliet27 Fri 18-Aug-23 08:44:34

I expect people here are better informed and know that while boat migrants are high profile they account for less than 5% of total immigration
I wonder how many more there are that we don’t know about

Wyllow3 Fri 18-Aug-23 08:41:00

Lovetopaint037 you have written it for me. Thank you. I think a lot of anger arises from fear and its fanned by the worst of social media.

fancythat Fri 18-Aug-23 08:37:54

Casdon I too am conscious of that. And now move away and think/do more uplifting things. Much better.

fancythat Fri 18-Aug-23 08:34:33

Skydancer We noticed more angry drivers too. For quite a while. But seem to have got better recently.

Coco12 Not sure I have noticed it here. But what you say reminds me of Russ ia and the programme Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.
Apparently they had to stop doing the programme there, because the audience did not like people winning.

Lovetopaint037 Fri 18-Aug-23 08:28:37

Everywhere there appears to be uncertainty and fear. The media reminds us on a daily basis that the climate is getting worse with more to fear from fires etc. We are afraid to be in need of medical help as it is unlikely we are going to be treated in time to prevent more suffering. Dental treatment is outrageously expensive or unable to be obtained easily.The cost of living is an ever increasing problem with young people facing uncertainty as to what they will be paying for mortgages etc. Covid also left us with a sense of vulnerability that we didn’t have before. Then people dying in an attempt to get here in woefully inadequate dinghy’s or boats. Then the woefully inadequate processing system which has led to so many immigrants roaming around in certain areas unable to work or be of use while locals view them with suspicion. Politicians who lie or give handouts for personal gain. An infrastructure that has been underfunded for years which is highlighted when any pressure is put upon it. Yet staff can’t be found for so many restaurants, care homes, hotels etc etc. Then there are the strikes of doctors, train operators etc etc. Surely all these factors impinge on our daily sense of uncertainty and therefore peace of mind. So what to do? We carry on regardless and glean every happiness we can find in relationships, humour and look forward to better times while grateful for the blessings we have now.

Luckygirl3 Fri 18-Aug-23 08:09:08

I do get angry about the health service - it is so very good at trauma care, but everything else is going wrong. And I get even angrier that this dreadful government is engineering this steady decline.

But I do not blame the less fortunate fellow human beings who are trying to escape poverty and persecution.

BlueBelle Fri 18-Aug-23 07:55:36

I ve never been an angry person but I hate inequality and unfairness so I am angry with such short sighted racist people who bleat on about refugees and immigrants, other than that
I m not angry and don’t feel much anger around me at all, I live in what is considered a deprived seaside area but most people I talk to (and I talk to a lot within my job) seem absolutely and normally fine ….sad though at the state our country has been pushed into the last 13 years but I see a lot of ‘coming together’ to try and do community projects and right some wrongs

I know this will offend some people on here but it is true .

Actually Primrose it’s absolutely the opposite of true one of the reasons we are in so much trouble is because we don’t let the potential doctors, dentists, fruit pickers, care assistants etc come here and work preferring to put them in a variety of very poor unacceptable conditions for years ..in out quest to keep England ‘to ourself’ (a horrible thought)

I did wake up reasonable happy

Coolgran65 Fri 18-Aug-23 07:17:34

I am not angry, I'm not an angry person, but I do feel anxious and overwhelmed at just how difficult everything is. I have so many ongoing health issues with referrals to consultants and waiting lists. 4 different medical diagnosis in the last 18 months. And so smaller matters seen to cause me stress where before I would have sailed through.
Yesterday the side sheared off a back molar and so today will mean ringing my dentist to try for an appointment to have it treated. I've barely slept this past night worrying about what this might cost and will it mean an expensive crown. It's just another hassle and expense on top of everything else.
Also, just a minor issue in the scheme of things - I am diabetic and have been attending the NHS Podiatrist every six months because of a painful foot condition which they can treat but which the chiropodist 'down the road' won't tackle, or at least tries but is inadequate. Last week I was told by my NHS podiatrist that they can no longer treat this and must now only deal with open wounds. I must find a private chiropodist willing to treat me which is fine but it's finding one who will do it properly.

I used to be a very capable person who could deal with most eventualities but nowadays it just seems to be nothing is straightforward. I am worn down.

Mizuna Fri 18-Aug-23 05:27:37

No, not in my neck of the woods either. Certainly since Covid people seem more tolerant where I live and the NHS support exemplary. Sorry you're not getting the help you need cornergran.

nanna8 Fri 18-Aug-23 05:19:39

Nup, not here they’re not. Since Covid people are nicer after a 2 year lockdown, much more likely to chat and smile.

NotSpaghetti Fri 18-Aug-23 05:16:25

I live in a relatively poor area M0nica - and, strangely enough, no one has mentioned people coming into this country in rubber dinghies here either.

I don't know where the poster can be living if they know a lot of people who are very angry about the daily influx of hundreds of people on rubber dinghies..

People where I live, are also waiting for social housing, dental care, operations, school places etc. I don’t really think they are seen as related issues here.

coco12 Thu 17-Aug-23 23:24:22

That sounds nice lilypollen we are looking after our two GS next week and I think while it'll be busy! It'll be the break we need 😊

lilypollen Thu 17-Aug-23 23:15:31

coco12 Sadly I have to agree with you. There seem to be things that make me cross on a daily basis. However I had a lovely relaxing day with DGC at a wildlife park this week and felt totally relaxed and happy.

M0nica Thu 17-Aug-23 22:57:24

Strange, I live in a very expensive part of the country with many people on minimum wage jobs and most schools oversubscribed. No one has mentioned people coming into this country in rubber dinghies.

I expect people here are better informed and know that while boat migrants are high profile they account for less than 5% of total immigration

The latest estimates on migration from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) suggest that in 2022: 1.2 million people migrated into the UK and 557,000 people emigrated from it, leaving a net migration figure of 606,000 as of the end of June 2022. commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06077/ According to the latest data from the Home Office, 45,755 people reached the UK in 2022 www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=How+many+immigrants+came+to+yk+by+boat

What makes me angry is seeing the discourteous and dismissive way a friends medical problems are treated by her GP and seeing the local hospital dismiss a medical problem DGS has had for over 10 years, most of his life, without them aking much effort to find a cause, as not bad enough to be worth following up. Fortunately his GP is outraged and will be referring him for private treatment, but I am very aware that he s going to be treated only because we can pay and i am angry for those who cannot pay and must live with an endemic medical problem that could damage their health for life.

coco12 Thu 17-Aug-23 22:47:07

theexwife I have pondered that too. I feel we don't know the implications of social media but I for one need to use it less and get off my phone. But I cant !

Theexwife Thu 17-Aug-23 22:35:41

For me, it is social media, I get caught up in other people's anger about events or situations, getting angry about things I would have no knowledge of if I hadn’t read about them.

Even on this forum, I feel angry about the views others have, again I would not have known if not for my time spent on social media.

I wonder if this affects other people the same and for some, it carries on in day-to-day life.

Casdon Thu 17-Aug-23 22:19:39

I tend not to mix with people who are angry, and if anybody does start on a rant I change the subject, as so many rants are ill informed and pointless, and it gets on my nerves, I’d rather have an uplifting conversation, and there’s so much else happening. I do enjoy a good debate, but without the anger.
I think the pandemic has changed some people for the long term unfortunately, it’s sad to see.

coco12 Thu 17-Aug-23 22:19:00

I am finding the level of ill will to others a bit off the scale too. If you mention even a small success or good thing, people are putting a downer on it.
Very suitable German word of schadenfreude sums it up. Pleasure derived from others misfortune