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Shingles - Again. Have the Vaccine!

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Dinahmo Mon 15-Apr-24 12:12:44

There have been discussions about shingles in the past - some people say that they haven't suffered much whilst others have suffered long term pain. Some people have had the jab but others won't.

I have mentioned my DH before and the pain he is suffering after his first bout nearly 6 years ago. He is now on his third bout. He had the jab after the first bout, as did I. It reared it's ugly head last week and he is now taking valacyclovir and Lyrica. He has taken the latter nearly every day since the first bout. He has tried a variety of treatments including having electrodes attached to his head, hypnotherapy and self hypnosis.

France has not yet recognized the Shingrix vaccine which is more efficacious than Zostavax but is apparently going to do so in about 2 months. As soon as they do we shall both ask for it.

My point in bringing this up again is to ask people to get the vaccine if they haven't already, even if it is Zostavax. This bout, as well as the second have not been as bad the first because of the vaccine - at least on his skin - but both mainfested in the same place and so the pain is as bad or worse that he first time of the nerves being re-affected.

For some people the pain never goes away and I fear that it might be the case for DH. Younger people can recover with out ongoing pain. I had it when was in my late 30s, around my waist and whist the pain gradually dwindled I continued to get twinges for nearly 3 years. For older people it can be disastrous since it often affects the face and around the eyes.

So please, don't dismiss what I have written because you know someone who has fully recovered - think seriously about the vaccine.

grannysyb Fri 19-Apr-24 09:20:07

Had the vaccination when I turned 70, so I assume it was the old one. In response to the post about covid vaccine causing shingles, due to an autoimmune skin problem I have had eight vaccinations and have just been invited to have the ninth!

GrandmaKT Thu 18-Apr-24 21:23:51

Thanks for starting this thread. I was 65 earlier in the year and it reminded me to phone my GP and book an appointment for the vaccine.

Bluedaisy Thu 18-Apr-24 18:09:38

I haven’t had the Shingles vaccination yet as I’m between the 65 & 70 gap, so ineligible at the moment but I have had Shingles twice of which the first time approximately 12 years ago has left me with Ramsay Hunt Palsy of the face which is unfortunately permanent and can be a side effect of Shingles. I visited A&E as soon as I woke up and saw what had happened and was informed straight away by (fortunately) a very knowledgeable Doctor that I had Ramsay Hunt Palsy brought on by Shingles. I was given the antivirals and steroids by the hospital but they didn’t help my face much. The second time I had Shingles it even went down my arms as well as in my head and ear. So if thinking of swerving the Shingles jab I advise having a re think of what it can leave you with!

4allweknow Thu 18-Apr-24 17:38:58

I had shingles, awful. Several years latter had vaccine. Then again a number of years later, shingles again. Worse that time, couldn't believe it, no rash or spots but pain, excruciating. Apparently vaccine only last 7 years.

CanadianGran Thu 18-Apr-24 17:24:00

I had my first Shingrix shot in February, and due for the next one at the end of the month. I had no after-effect other than a sore arm for a few days.

Here in British Columbia it is not covered by provincial medical, but my private insurance through work covers the cost.

Sparklefizz Thu 18-Apr-24 17:23:51

JenniferEccles

Cause and effect folks. Cause and effect.
For instance I could say that I had an in-growing toenail recently and then a week later I caught covid.
If I then said that the problem with the toenail caused me to catch covid, that would be complete rubbish wouldn’t it?

So are some of the inaccurate, misleading connections on here.

Well said Jennifer Eccles

Marydoll Thu 18-Apr-24 17:11:59

Primrose53

Nannan2

So are some of you saying that if you get a vaccine against shingles it still can make you ill ?? In what way??I'd rather know please, before asking if i need it on medical grounds.

Yes. My friend’s husband had the vaccine and since then has had Shingles twice.

Just like the Covid vaccine, the shingles vaccine does not prevent you having shingles, but lessens the severity.

Nannan, if you needed it on medical grounds, surely your clinician would have flagged it up? Mine did!
Why don't you do some research, like many of us do, before we receive the vaccine. That way you would find accurate information, instead of some of the nonsensical and inaccurate information posted on this thread.

JenniferEccles, I do like your last comment.

JenniferEccles Thu 18-Apr-24 16:42:54

Cause and effect folks. Cause and effect.
For instance I could say that I had an in-growing toenail recently and then a week later I caught covid.
If I then said that the problem with the toenail caused me to catch covid, that would be complete rubbish wouldn’t it?

So are some of the inaccurate, misleading connections on here.

Primrose53 Thu 18-Apr-24 16:29:57

Nannan2

So are some of you saying that if you get a vaccine against shingles it still can make you ill ?? In what way??I'd rather know please, before asking if i need it on medical grounds.

Yes. My friend’s husband had the vaccine and since then has had Shingles twice.

Marydoll Thu 18-Apr-24 16:24:40

As always a good immune system is our best defence.

That applies to all infections and illnesses. However, as you age, your immune system doesn't fight off invaders as well, that is why it is recommended that older people be vaccinated.
How do you know how strong your immune system is undines?
Since you have decided not to get vaccinated, will you refuse medical intervention if you do get shingles? After all your strong immune system will fight it off. wink

Jan135 Thu 18-Apr-24 16:18:37

I had both doses recently. Felt unwell the evening of the 2nd dose but fine by the next day. Pleased to have had it done. My MIL had shingles last year and is still not completely over it

MayBee70 Thu 18-Apr-24 16:12:13

undines

I am taking this very seriously as a reason NOT to get vaccinated
Shingles is one of the many ills now on the increase following the COVID vaccines
Now of course they are pushing yet another vaccine - against shingles
As always a good immune system is our best defence
I hope all who are ill recover soon

You get shingles when your immune system is not working properly because it’s in your body already.

maddyone Thu 18-Apr-24 16:06:20

I had the old vaccine about a year ago after I turned 70. I was not happy to get the old one when a better one is now available, but there was no choice.
I had shingles some ten years ago and it wasn’t very serious. I had pain around one side of my waist but no other symptoms, but nonetheless I had the inferior vaccine because I would prefer not to have it again.

Bazza Thu 18-Apr-24 15:38:41

After nursing my aunt through a terrible bout of shingles I was very quick to take up my offer of a vaccination although I probably wouldn’t have bothered if I hadn’t seen how ill she was. Her rash was on her buttocks and she had terrible pain there for the rest of her life. Just do it if you can.

Nannan2 Thu 18-Apr-24 15:04:46

I had chicken pox about 3 or 4 times as a kid, until i built up enough immunity.Does that mean i would have very bad shingles if i got it? Or that a reaction to the vaccine would be bad?Any advisors who have medical training on here please?

Nannan2 Thu 18-Apr-24 15:00:38

So are some of you saying that if you get a vaccine against shingles it still can make you ill ?? In what way??I'd rather know please, before asking if i need it on medical grounds.

Nannan2 Thu 18-Apr-24 14:54:20

Robin202-do you mean the covid is known to cause shingles? Or that the vaccine is?

undines Thu 18-Apr-24 14:36:47

I am taking this very seriously as a reason NOT to get vaccinated
Shingles is one of the many ills now on the increase following the COVID vaccines
Now of course they are pushing yet another vaccine - against shingles
As always a good immune system is our best defence
I hope all who are ill recover soon

Marydoll Thu 18-Apr-24 14:27:48

The post I reported has been removed, in case people think I reported them!

Spencer2009 Thu 18-Apr-24 14:21:02

I had shingles 2 weeks after having my flu and covid jab together, there is a possibility I got it because my immune was down. Was on my face and in my eye - trip to eye hospital for eye drops and oral medication. Day later felt dreadful and spent a week in bed.

Dinahmo Thu 18-Apr-24 14:10:52

Virol not Viorl

Marydoll Thu 18-Apr-24 14:10:45

I have reported this.

welbeck Thu 18-Apr-24 14:10:44

Robin202

Have you had multi covid vaccines - because it is now known to cause Shingles.

that is not what the doctor reiersen is saying.
she says Covid may increase the risk for shingles.
not the vaccine against covid.
so, all the more reason to get all the vaccines.
she says she has covid for the fifth time and simultaneously has shingles.
and that there is some evidence that covid may increase the risk for a shingles outbreak in people over 50.

Dinahmo Thu 18-Apr-24 14:10:39

RunaroundSue

I have never had chicken pox so cannot get shingles. Our two sons and grandchildren all got chicken pox when they were young but I never caught it. I have never had any childhood illnesses at all, neither had my sister. My mum used to say it was because of the Malt and Cod Liver oil she used to give us every day when we were children.

You were lucky then. i and my siblings had daily doses of Viorl and cod liver oil. didn't stop us getting chicken pox

welbeck Thu 18-Apr-24 13:51:26

OldFrill

In Scotland you're eligible for the free shingles vaccine if you were aged 65, or 70 (or over) on 1 September 2023. This excludes people who were aged 66 to 69 on this date.
Tough if you're 66-70 (same as rUK)

in england, i don't know about scotland, you could not get the shingles vaccine if you were aged 65 on 1st sept.
unless your b'day was on 1st sept.
if you were already 65 when 1st sept dawned, no go.
you post could be read either way.
i was just clarifying, as so many people have been confused by the strange change.