Eating nuts in enclosed spaces

ordinarygirl

I would also add that if catering for vegans and others was not so dire, then people would not need to take nut bars with them on planes and trains. Nut bars are a replacement for a meal that is not offered to vegans by catering firms . It is not a snack but for a vegan it is nourishment on a long flight.

But it's not as if that's the only thing they can eat? Surely if there is a risk to someone's life, it's hardly asking too much for people NOT to eat nuts, even on a long haul flight? There are plenty of alternative snacks.

I don't think you would even consider the 'fairness' if someone's life was at risk. I would be happy to refrain.

I would also add that if catering for vegans and others was not so dire, then people would not need to take nut bars with them on planes and trains. Nut bars are a replacement for a meal that is not offered to vegans by catering firms . It is not a snack but for a vegan it is nourishment on a long flight.

this is not about refraining from eating nuts for a few hours but on long flights. To date it is not illegal or banned. So why is it not banned if so critical?

Gosh, the nut blog has certainly raised my awareness!! A very dear friend of mine was at a company dinner (many moons ago), he had a proven allergy to sea food so naturally avoided it, But whilst eating his soup went into toxic shock and was actually hospitalised for a few days. When investigating the reasons for the allergic reaction it transpires the pans used for that soup had been used 2 days previously to make fish soup!!!

nanna8

The local flights here often have nuts. Mainly peanuts but sometimes macadamias. They are always in sealed packages ,not loose.

But presumably those eating them open the package before consuming them, so they hold the same risk as a handful of loose peanuts in a bowl.

Does any airline serve nuts that are not in a sealed package?

nanna8

The local flights here often have nuts. Mainly peanuts but sometimes macadamias. They are always in sealed packages ,not loose.

I suppose I'd never asked for them on internal flights, assuming airlines were more careful now.

The local flights here often have nuts. Mainly peanuts but sometimes macadamias. They are always in sealed packages ,not loose.

wildswan16

It would, however, be very difficult to enforce. How do you ensure people from all over the world would comply even if it was made law in every country?

Well as far as I am aware, they've managed it with smoking haven't they?

They've also managed to ban the use of mobiles other than in airplane-mode where you turn off your wireless communication options.

A law is a law - why do you think people wouldn't obey it on a commercial airplane?

Well, I've not been on a plane that offers nuts as a snack for years.

It would, however, be very difficult to enforce. How do you ensure people from all over the world would comply even if it was made law in every country?

I love peanuts, but can never have them in the house! How did I survive the last forty years! 😉

It’s years since I was offered anything nut-based on a flight. I don’t think it’s that difficult to go without nuts for a few hours in order to protect someone’s life.

My dd flat-shared with someone who is nut-allergic. Although some of my DC have allergies, this was on a different level. I checked carefully whenever sending my dd any food gifts and she of course studied her grocery shopping carefully. Her flat mate was so allergic that she couldn’t go into cafes that offered an almond milk option, in case of cross contamination.

She once had a reaction when my dd was with her. She was certain she hadn’t eaten anything so my dd did some sleuthing and traced it back to a new shampoo her flatmate had used that had almond oil in it.

Often young lives too.

I think it would be best all round for airlines not to give or sell nuts on board or for Airports to sell them or passengers asked not to take any on board the plane.It would soon be accepted and could save lives every year.

I have twice been on a plane where it was announced that someone on board had a severe nut allergy and please do not eat any nuts you might have with you.
I’ve not been on a flight where nuts were offered for years, it’s usually pretzels these days.
I have absolutely no objection to not eating nuts on a flight. I wouldn’t want to be the cause of someone having an anaphylactic shock.
Actually I don’t eat that many nuts at all. I do use them in some of my cake recipes though, usually walnuts.

MissInterpreted

With you on that one, flappergirl.

Indeed MissInterpreted.

If people can't go without peanuts or a gin and tonic for a few hours there's something very wrong with them, and I speak as someone who actually likes both!

That is so sad LucyLocket. There are so many hidden dangers. My son was desperately ill after his graduation having inadvertently eaten a chocolate brownie containing almond essence. Our local Chinese restaurant will cook some of his meal separately and are at pains to tell him what is safe and what is not but this is not possible everywhere. He will never eat a dessert when out because of the hidden dangers.

That is horrific LucyL. That was my worst nightmare.
My MIL and my DH's siblings were too afraid to babysit my son, in case something happened.
My mother, a former nurse, was the opposite. She was very protective of him and they formed a very close bond. So much so taht he named his daughter after her.

A school friend of my daughter died as she accidentally ate something with nuts in it, two Epipens worth of adrenaline didn’t save her as the needles weren’t long enough to penetrate through her jeans. After her death, the needles were made longer.

Her name was Poppy Harvey and as I type I can see her face in my mind. It was 15 years ago.

With you on that one, flappergirl.

Meant to add that I really can't see that going without peanuts on a flight is much of a hardship. Rather a first world problem me thinks and a strange thing to have a fit of the vapours about.

I'd go further and ban alcohol on planes actually.

EkwaNimitee

growstuff my bars are pressed cashews and fruit paste so good and very portable in a handbag. Sugar is no good as it causes a surge of insulin which rapidly drops blood sugar down.
I don’t eat nuts or peanuts for the problem but thanks for your suggestion.

There are bars available with no nuts. I assume you're diabetic. What do you think fruit paste is, if not sugar?

Germanshepherdsmum

Will restaurants stop serving anything containing nuts? They are enclosed spaces.

The difference is that you can ask a restaurant in advance about their allergy policy or check online. If they serve nuts or cannot guarantee cross contamination (which they have every legal right to do) then you can choose another restaurant or stay at home.

If you need to travel by air you cannot pick and choose your aeroplane.

growstuff my bars are pressed cashews and fruit paste so good and very portable in a handbag. Sugar is no good as it causes a surge of insulin which rapidly drops blood sugar down.
I don’t eat nuts or peanuts for the problem but thanks for your suggestion.