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Baby Boomers sicker and frailer than previous generations

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Ziplok Mon 07-Oct-24 09:43:35

I think it’s a bit too easy to generalise like this, though.

Certainly there is a lot of obesity now, and in part this could be due to lifestyle as most people are much more sedentary than once was the case and ready foods are not always as wholesome as they should be.

However, pre WW2, there were a lot of deaths by illnesses for which there are either cures or better control of now (eg meningitis, polio, TB, etc, etc). Rickets was common place amongst poorer families due to poor nutrition.

So, with every generation, there have been and will be health issues that needed/will need addressing. It’s too simplistic, I feel, to suggest that all of one group is/was unhealthier/healthier than another.

mae13 Mon 07-Oct-24 09:38:33

Yes, we certainly are fatter. I've heard it said often that the rationing of WW2 paid off for the wartime generation and actually made them healthier.

I think rationing only fully stopped about 1954(?) and I imagine that's when the nation's health started on the downward slide.

HelterSkelter1 Mon 07-Oct-24 09:38:15

Both my grandmothers died in their 60s. Mil in her mid 60s parents in mid 70s. They all would have had a war time diet and walked everywhere. One grandmother worked outside the home all her life, the other worked in the home bringing up 5 children. Both my parents worked all their lives amd ate well balanced meals.

I think its luck of the draw. But I do feel sorry for young parents now. The pressures on them are relentless. And also children now. I was only thinking this morning of how much I loved school at 12 at this time of the year. A new uniform. Walked to school for 30 minutes and back at 4 along the sea front. A good freshly cooked school dinner. We had a good cook and catering team. No bullying. No mobile phones and subsequent bullying. The teachers were respected by children and parents without question. Available dentists. School medical checks. I was lucky

Witzend Mon 07-Oct-24 09:33:38

Should have added, but IMO genes do play a part, too. My mother always said she came from ‘good stock’ - her own mother was one of ten, 9 of whom lived into their 80s, the other died in mid 60s.

My mother went on to 97, but her extremely robust constitution was a mixed blessing - for around her last 15 years she had dementia, so her existence for at least the final 5 was pitiful. TBH a swifter end would have been much more merciful.

Witzend Mon 07-Oct-24 09:27:42

NannyJan53

Mum is almost 95, and always puts her longevity down to growing up in the 30's and 40's where there were no junk foods, no sweets or biscuits much during the War, and no supermarkets to tempt you to buy more than you need.

Also she said she walked everywhere rarely even took a bus.

IMO your mum is spot on.

Greenfinch Mon 07-Oct-24 09:22:57

I agree with MaizieD. My grandparents died in their fifties and sixties. Sometimes a hard life had a detrimental impact.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 07-Oct-24 09:22:14

I am a mid 50’s baby, my peer group are normally found at the gym at least three times a week, walk, garden, look after GC, some are still working (nurses, teachers, charities etc)

We are all slim, fit and extremely active, cook from scratch, several vegetarians.

With the advance in medicines and diagnostics since WWII not sure I believe this report

Margiknot Mon 07-Oct-24 09:10:02

And the jam sandwich was most likely made on proper bread with home made jam!
Interesting! Most baby boomers would have been born into restrictions caused by food shortages and poverty. However so were previous generations. Food that was more affordable when baby boomers were young was seasonal veg from the garden or local allotments..
For later generations the cheapest and most available food is processed food such as white bread and marg.
So if baby boomers are iller due to diet alone ( and there are most likely many factors) diet as an adult is significant. Perhaps modern medicine helps us to survive longer with chronic illness or poor health now?

Jane43 Mon 07-Oct-24 09:01:08

Lack of exercise is a big factor too, if I catch the bus home from town there are often schoolchildren waiting and I am amazed when they get off the bus after just two stops.

MaizieD Mon 07-Oct-24 08:59:18

To be honest, MOnica, some of that sounds like bollocks to me.

How does it reconcile the claim that the prewar generations were 'fitter and healthier' than post war generations with the fact that prewar life expectancy was far shorter and infant mortality rates were higher? In other words, only the 'fittest' actually survived, whereas the postwar inception of the nhs, the improvements in medicine and access to medicine, and, access to greater amounts of cheap food has (or 'had', until the inception of 'austerity') improved life expectancy and infant mortality rates.

I'm particularly unhappy about the 'burden on the health service' statement. was that yours or the researchers'? Keeping more people alive inevitably means that the 'less fit' will be a higher percentage of the population and so skew numbers, but what do we do about that?

Having said all that I think that the usual suspects are to blame for the apparent decline in fitness and health. No doubt already cited by other posters...

Lovemylife Mon 07-Oct-24 08:56:14

Processed food includes things like yogurt and bread.

It’s the ultra-processed stuff that’s the problem, full of things our bodies wouldn’t recognise as food. It’s frightening.

Pantglas2 Mon 07-Oct-24 08:51:38

I agree with you NannyJan - my Dad is 90 and still chops his own logs, grows vegetables, walks to the pub, cooks all his own food from scratch and his weekly whole meal loaf comes from local bakery.

He’s never smoked or been overweight and has gotten over a cancer scare and a few falls in the last few years.

I watched Paddy McGuiness/Chris Harris programme on longevity on the Greek island Ikaria where the secret appeared to be keep doing what you’ve always done, or you won’t be able to do what you’ve always done!

petra Mon 07-Oct-24 08:49:13

Lovemylife

Working my way through ‘Ultra Processed People’, a sobering read about diet and health.

Processed food is the one thing that’s going to alter the life expectancy of future generations.
I believe an awful lot of problems/ issues that we are dealing with now is down to processed food.
It’s not as simple as avoiding turkey twizzlers, it goes far deeper in everything we buy and eat.

Sarnia Mon 07-Oct-24 08:39:31

These days you only have to walk to the door to receive a delivery of processed food high in fat, salt and sugar. Except for the chippy there were no fast food outlets when I was growing up and I can't remember seeing people eating in the street, unlike today. Children today are much more sedentary. I was outside playing for hours as a child with a jam sandwich and a bottle of water to keep me going until teatime when my Mum gave me a home cooked tea with meat, fish and lots of vegetables whereas ready meals are big business today. My grandchildren seem to exist on chicken nuggets, chips and pizza because it's quick when their parent get in from work. No surprise that they are brewing up health problems for themselves.

NannyJan53 Mon 07-Oct-24 08:35:15

Mum is almost 95, and always puts her longevity down to growing up in the 30's and 40's where there were no junk foods, no sweets or biscuits much during the War, and no supermarkets to tempt you to buy more than you need.

Also she said she walked everywhere rarely even took a bus.

Lovemylife Mon 07-Oct-24 08:35:08

Working my way through ‘Ultra Processed People’, a sobering read about diet and health.

Oopsadaisy1 Mon 07-Oct-24 08:32:14

I’m sure they were far more active than we are, there were a lot of manufacturing trades ‘back in the day’ physical work now replaced with office work.

In the home of course many hours spent trying to wring out the bedsheets so that they would dry before the end of the week!

Plenty of illnesses caused by allergies too, I only knew of 1 girl in my school with Hay Fever, now almost everyone I know carries an Inhaler.

Sparklefizz Mon 07-Oct-24 08:28:47

Diet and lack of exercise.

M0nica Mon 07-Oct-24 08:05:46

Thereis a report in the Daily Telegraph today that Baby Boomers and succeeding generations, by the time they reached their 50s and 60s are fatter, weaker, and sicker than those born before the WW2.

Researchers at Oxford have found that each succeeding generation through the 20th century has more chronic sickness, obesity and disability than the one above it.

Although modern medicine can do much to aid, and possibly mask this decline and keep people alive longer, were those born since WW2 as fit and healthy as their parents and grandparents the burden on the NHS would be much less.