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How to stop pee-ing so often!

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ftm420 Mon 21-Oct-24 15:30:45

I've been having various treatments over the last couple of years, as I get up 4 or 5 times a night to pee. I've tried 'jude' supplements and have had 2 rounds of bladder botox with increasing strengths, to no avail.

I'm now using amytriptiline and have been on it for months now with no effect.

As I'm recovering from hip replacement surgery, getting up so many times is painful and inconvenient. In addition, it seems like when I go to lie down for a rest, I can doze for an hour, then I need to pee!

Fed up of not drinking caffeine, no red wi e, no alcohol, but keep drinking lots of water which makes me pee anyway.

Does anyone know if I can sort this out? I'm 60 and in menopause.

TIA

Primrose53 Wed 20-Nov-24 14:49:27

The tablets from the GP have made no difference at all. I think I need a stringer dose. Still getting out to loo 3 times every night.

Primrose53 Wed 20-Nov-24 14:48:15

Topgunner. Several stores sell period pants and although I don’t have periods anymore I have bought several pairs to wear in bed just in case. They came from M and S and I chose the heavy flow ones. They have built in protection and really do work. My neighbour also bought some and she loves hers too.

ftm420 Wed 20-Nov-24 14:40:58

TopGunner: I too don't understand why there isn't a cure for this. Surely there must be a way to switch off your bladder to make it less sensitive?

TopGunner Wed 20-Nov-24 11:54:12

I wish someone could tell me that also. I have just had to give in and order some Tena high waisted pants with inbuilt pads as I was fed up of not being able to go anywhere I did not know as I never knew if there would be a toilet so I stuck to shopping centres and supermarkets. I would have loved to have got on a bus and traveled an hour to the nearest town and had a look round but by the time I arrived I knew there was no public toilet so I would have had to go to Marks and Spencers and use theirs.

I have a prolapse which the specialists won't do anything about (I am 82), a hiatus hernia and an umbilical hernia. I have also had two operations for femral hernias buth sides. I think my insides are dropping out. I am fit and healthy apart from the toilet business.

I hope I can get some sort of stress free hours if I am wearing a pair of tenaform pants. I also am up three times during the night.

Sick of it.

I think it is absolutely disgusting that in this era there are no public toilets on the high street. I have to go into a cafe, buy a coffee, only take a sip so I can use their toilet. I sometimes sneaked into McDonalds to use theirs but it is so stressful not knowing where the toilets are if any.

ftm420 Wed 20-Nov-24 04:21:39

Update as I've not been on for a while.

Now 6 weeks post hip replacement. You'd think things would be settling down, but no.

Last couple of weeks I'm up every 1-2 hours every single bl££dy night.

I don't know how I manage to exist. This is so awful. I hate staying with friends, or going away to hotels for a 'romantic' break. I'm just up all the time. I pee every time & I always try to not get up, but just have to.

Still no news on when i'll be re-referred back to my consultant. Thanks NHS for screwing things for me. I feel like I'll never have a decent night's sleep ever again. This has been going on for years.

I'm otherwise fit & healthy but t his lack of sleep is just making me feel so old.

Sorry for the 4 a.m. rant but I'm so fed up. Been crying most of the night, which doesn't help.

Primrose53 Sat 16-Nov-24 09:54:28

I know it’s only been one night but I needed the loo countless times during the evening almost like I had a chill.

Last cold drink was at 6.30 and then I had a small hot chocolate about 9. I was out 3 times during the night as usual.
Maybe tonight will be better.

MargaretinNorthant Fri 15-Nov-24 18:05:24

Maybee, I’ve had both hips done, have a commode near the bed, near enough to grab an arm of it to help you move. Helped no end for me.

Primrose53 Fri 15-Nov-24 17:42:04

Started on mirabegron tablets today. Betmiga 25mg.

They are going to ring me in two weeks to see how I am getting on.

Doctor was very thorough with questions, then did a vaginal exam but unfortunately nicked me with the speculum and I yelled out. I bled a bit and she apologised but I couldn’t let her continue so she did it by hand. She is arranging blood tests for kidneys.
She also offered for me to see the physio for pelvic floor exercises but I already do those. She said I could have oestrogen vaginally instead of the pills but I already have that as HRT.

Fingers crossed this works and My night time toilet trips lessen.

ftm420 Sat 02-Nov-24 11:27:23

Been tested for infection too. Nothing. I have been told that my bladder only holds 150ml, after urology tests. Last night I woke a few times BUT when I woke at 0415 needing a wee, I picked up my kindle instead and read myself back to sleep. I then slept through until 0600. I'm going to work (again) on trying to hold on as long as possible at night to see I'd I can get that 150ml to expand! Apparently a bladder can hold up to 500ml so if I try hard enough...

Farmor15 Sat 02-Nov-24 07:56:33

That's a very high frequency of peeing, ftm. Do you have much urine each time? Have you been tested for an infection?

The only time I've had to go very often is when I have an episode of atrial fibrillation (heart irregularity). This releases a hormone that makes the body get rid of fluid- I would have a full bladder every 20 minutes or so, going on for a few hours.
This is only occasionally but usually happens at night.

ftm420 Fri 01-Nov-24 22:43:24

MayBee70 I can go from 9am when I get to work, until after lunch without peeing. Last night I was up at 12:15, 01:20, 02:20, 03:20, 04:20. Then awake until 6am when my alarm went off to take my painkillers. Managed a couple of hours until my 8am alarm went off and I got up at that point.

I lie in bed trying to convince myself that I really don't need to go, but after about 10 mins I just have to.

So tired.

Primrose53 Fri 01-Nov-24 22:09:19

Earliest I can get to see a GP is two weeks time. I am fed up getting up 3 or 4 times every night to wee. It is exhausting. Fingers crossed they can give me something to zip me up.

MayBee70 Fri 01-Nov-24 18:55:18

Were you having to go a lot throughout the day or ( like me) was it just at night when you’re lying down?

Sallywally1 Thu 31-Oct-24 21:05:25

I am just recovering from a prolapse cystocele operation the other day. The bladder needed re positioning to its correct place. I had been waking every two hours or so, it was ruining my life as I was so tired. This may be worth investigating, though obviously your problem is nit necessarily the same as mine. I am 69 if that’s relevant, so meno long past.

Ilovedogs22 Wed 30-Oct-24 11:58:10

I found that I needed to go to the loo more & more often, which was inconvenient as I was a gardener. I then realised that I was obsessing & becoming neurotic about it! So I took myself in -hand
as I realised it was just a tiny amount of wee each time.
This mind-set really helped me as well as being just a little careful about how much fluid I drank. Now I can go without a wee for ages & it's such a relief! (excuse the pun)
I didn't want end -up like my mother who could wee for England and Saint George.😊

MayBee70 Tue 29-Oct-24 23:22:00

The Jason Stephenson get back to sleep fast on utube gets me back to sleep. I’m going to listen to it now as I’ve got to get up early tomorrow and I can never sleep if I know I’ve got an early start.

ftm420 Tue 29-Oct-24 22:52:37

Just to add more context, I can't use anything oestrogen related due to a history of breast cancer. I dont have diabetes, am not overweight and don't snore or have sleep apnoea. Pelvic floor is strong and kidney function is normal.

When I wake at night I do try to go back to sleep but just have to get up. I don't leak so am not incontinent.

crazyH Mon 28-Oct-24 17:02:41

3 times between waking at about 8.30am and going to bed about 9pm - and then, about 3am

WelwynWitch3 Mon 28-Oct-24 16:52:42

I had weekend bladder after spinal anaesthetic when I had hip replacement in December. doctor prescribed 2mg ofTolterodine Tartrate which I have to take once in morning and again in evening. I still have to get up couple of times a night but I do make sure my bladder is empty every time I go.

Nanniejude Sat 26-Oct-24 08:10:54

Urine infections UTIs and diabetes can be the reason for frequent urination.

ftm420 Thu 24-Oct-24 18:22:26

Update: apparently, after calling my consultant's secretary and then getting through to the GP surgery (took 2 days!), I have now been referred back to my original consultant.

Turns out that the NHS in its wisdom, has cancelled the contract that allowed me to see a consultant at the local private clinic under the NHS, BUT there is now another contract in place (which in effect is exactly the same, but renamed - God bless the NHS) and I have been re-referred back to the same clinic.

However, I'll now have to wait a few more months to see him again.

I'll note down all your suggestions to ask at my next appointment.

Thanks all. I'll update you soon I hope!

MadeInYorkshire Thu 24-Oct-24 09:41:02

kircubbin2000

I just accept this now and can tell the time each time I wake. As it only happens at night I put it down to my bowel prolapse pressing on the bladder when I lie down.

It quite the same but I have a massive abdominal hernia and every time I stand up, my bowels bounce on my bladder and I have to go NOW or it’s too late!!

Tuaim Wed 23-Oct-24 11:32:29

Because of my condition - IBS - I fast from 6p.m. to 6 a.m. and drink as much as I can in the earlier part of the day, mostly water or tea but aim for 2 litres and nothing after 6 p.m. It seems to work for me. I take a glass of water to bed and if thirsty, I just sip on sipful. Hope you find a resolution.

ReadyMeals Wed 23-Oct-24 10:33:36

MayBee70

ReadyMeals

One cause of this is the water sits in the cells of your legs etc and your circulation doesn't get it to the kidneys until you lie down. Anyone with oedema or swelling of the ankles will know how the legs and ankles are not as puffy in the morning as in the evening. So supposing you could put your feet up or even lie down in the evening to watch TV or whatever, then you might have a chance the excess water will have got through your kidneys before you go to sleep

So would using a Revitive help with that? I do keep thinking about buying one.

I think it's just down to gravity. Especially as we get older and our circulations are not as good. Fluid wants to sink to the lowest point it can and stay there.

4allweknow Tue 22-Oct-24 20:40:11

Surely 2 litres should be made up from what you actually drink and liquid in foods.