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How to stop pee-ing so often!

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ftm420 Mon 21-Oct-24 15:30:45

I've been having various treatments over the last couple of years, as I get up 4 or 5 times a night to pee. I've tried 'jude' supplements and have had 2 rounds of bladder botox with increasing strengths, to no avail.

I'm now using amytriptiline and have been on it for months now with no effect.

As I'm recovering from hip replacement surgery, getting up so many times is painful and inconvenient. In addition, it seems like when I go to lie down for a rest, I can doze for an hour, then I need to pee!

Fed up of not drinking caffeine, no red wi e, no alcohol, but keep drinking lots of water which makes me pee anyway.

Does anyone know if I can sort this out? I'm 60 and in menopause.

TIA

loopyloo Tue 10-Dec-24 07:08:42

Hmm think 8pm far too late to be eating.
And then going for a run?! And drinking lots of water?
Perhaps eat at 6.30 and eat a lighter meal and stop drinking at 6pm.
Also get checked for type 2 diabetes.

Katyj Tue 10-Dec-24 06:53:16

Hi my husband takes 10mg of solifencin and has done for about a year now. It’s helping but not greatly.
I’m concerned because I read something the other day about it causing a 30% increase in dementia a lot more than anticipated. He is having memory problems and difficulty finding words. Anyone read about this ?

MayBee70 Tue 10-Dec-24 00:20:10

What I don’t understand is that I can spend all day in the garden without needing the loo but, as soon as I lie down to go to sleep I’m awake every couple of hours. What’s even worse is that my need for the loo is now working its way into my dreams.

JamesandJon33 Mon 09-Dec-24 23:27:46

Sallywally1 That is so bizarre. I wake at those times most every night, Perhaps it is a bio-rhythm thing. How strange.

Primrose53 Mon 09-Dec-24 19:45:34

Bit of improvement here - the tablets from GP must be helping as I have slept right through on two nights. Either that or I am so shattered with my husband in hospital (day 13) that I am out for the count. Bursting when I wake though.

Sallywally1 Mon 09-Dec-24 16:31:23

I can only commiserate as I have the same problem. Up sometimes six times. I had pelvic floor surgery for a cystocele high I thought would help, but which hasn’t really. I suffer from endless UTIs too. I am going to try D Mannose which has been recommended. I will think of you all when I wake up at 1, 3, 5 etc! X

ftm420 Sat 30-Nov-24 12:48:35

Primrose53 : as it happens I love the taste of lemsip max. Maybe I'll just try one and see if I sleep through...

Primrose53 Tue 26-Nov-24 09:03:52

After my Hot Lemon drink about 9pm last night I woke up just once at 2..30pm. Went to the loo and slept right through until after 8am.

Primrose53 Mon 25-Nov-24 22:18:21

Still have a bit of a cold so just taken a Max Strength Hot Lemon drink. When I took one last week it was my best night.

Miffy1606 Sat 23-Nov-24 12:43:50

Another vote for Solifenicin.

ftm420 Sat 23-Nov-24 11:24:52

Just to frustrate things, the last 2 nights I've woken up once! Up at about 4am and then at 0730, which is pretty much normal get up time! Why does my body do this? As far as I can tell, I'm doing the same old routine so nothing changed.

Having spoken to a private GP via my DHs healthcare line, she went back to the "don't drink after 6pm" line. Almost impossible when you eat at 8pm or go for a fast walk or regular exercise and need water!

Oh, well. I can try I suppose and just have a glass of water to hand at night time when I wake up dehydrated and with a headache, which happens if I don't drink.

I have also just invested in an "in-house sleep test" monitor from a local company that can diagnose sleep apnoea, as well as collecting stats re BP, o2, respiration, etc. If it rules out apnoea then that's a start.

I'll let you know how it goes and recommend it, if it comes up with anything useful!

TopGunner Fri 22-Nov-24 15:48:02

Primrose53

TopGunner

Primrose53

TopGunner. It’s called a Radar Key.

I don't think that is the one, it is a card you carry from a bowel and incontinence firm. I have been online looking for it but I will keep trying.

I had a radar key for my husband but it was useless as many were out of order and a lot had closed down.

No idea then. My Mum had bowel cancer but I never heard of an alternative to the radar key.

I found it, this is the website I was looking for. I am going to get it sorted today.

www.bladderandbowel.org/free-just-cant-wait-card/

Primrose53 Fri 22-Nov-24 14:27:54

TopGunner

Primrose53

TopGunner. It’s called a Radar Key.

I don't think that is the one, it is a card you carry from a bowel and incontinence firm. I have been online looking for it but I will keep trying.

I had a radar key for my husband but it was useless as many were out of order and a lot had closed down.

No idea then. My Mum had bowel cancer but I never heard of an alternative to the radar key.

TopGunner Fri 22-Nov-24 14:06:40

TopGunner

Primrose53

PS Good luck at Doctors. 👍

I am now waiting for a text telling me what to do, either an appointment or whatever they decide to do.

I have been reading all the posts and have decided to give the bladder retraining system a go. I have put on a pad and the last time I went to the toilet was 10-30 am, it is now 13-30 and I still haven't been even though I want to, I am hanging on as long as possible just as a trial. I have tried taking my mind off it while watching a film. I don't know if it is because I am wearing a pad that I have relaxed a bit and know if I need to go I can go using the pad but it is the longest I have not been to the toilet for a long time, I usually go every hour. Perhaps wearing a pad around the house will give me more confidence and not worry about having an accident.

Got to 3.1/2 hours then it was a mad dash. Will keep trying and see if I can go longer the next time.

TopGunner Fri 22-Nov-24 13:29:37

Primrose53

PS Good luck at Doctors. 👍

I am now waiting for a text telling me what to do, either an appointment or whatever they decide to do.

I have been reading all the posts and have decided to give the bladder retraining system a go. I have put on a pad and the last time I went to the toilet was 10-30 am, it is now 13-30 and I still haven't been even though I want to, I am hanging on as long as possible just as a trial. I have tried taking my mind off it while watching a film. I don't know if it is because I am wearing a pad that I have relaxed a bit and know if I need to go I can go using the pad but it is the longest I have not been to the toilet for a long time, I usually go every hour. Perhaps wearing a pad around the house will give me more confidence and not worry about having an accident.

TopGunner Fri 22-Nov-24 13:25:08

Primrose53

*TopGunner*. It’s called a Radar Key.

I don't think that is the one, it is a card you carry from a bowel and incontinence firm. I have been online looking for it but I will keep trying.

I had a radar key for my husband but it was useless as many were out of order and a lot had closed down.

Primrose53 Fri 22-Nov-24 13:16:54

PS Good luck at Doctors. 👍

Primrose53 Fri 22-Nov-24 13:16:32

TopGunner. It’s called a Radar Key.

TopGunner Fri 22-Nov-24 10:24:15

After a night of being up four times to use the toilet I have decided, this morning, enough is eough so I have sent an online form to my GP, (no more ringing up for appointments, new rules), explaining the problem.

I have in the past seen the GP about it but because it wasn't very bad they said to do exercise, which didn't work, but now it is terrible, if I want to go out for the day I have to have my last drink at breakfast in the morning and then nothing else until I get home but this has caused uti infections.

I have had to curtail going out unless I go to the same places, shopping centres or supermarkets because if I want to go into town I have to sneak into McDonalds or buy a coffee somewhere else and don't drink it so I can use the toilet. I did send off for the card about using the toilets anywhere but never heard from them and I have forgotten the name of the company.

Next time I have a baby, I will have a C section, as both babies were massive and caused the problem. Natural birth my backside, no-one tells you what happens to your innards in later life.

I am now in my 80's but still don't want to be housebound because of the lack of public toilets on the high street.

Primrose53 Fri 22-Nov-24 10:08:46

For the first time in ages I only got out once in the night! The only different thing I did was have a hot lemon/paracetamol drink (Max Strength) about 9pm as I have a nasty cold.

I wonder if it just knocked me out?

TopGunner Fri 22-Nov-24 09:50:41

Primrose53

*Topgunner*. Several stores sell period pants and although I don’t have periods anymore I have bought several pairs to wear in bed just in case. They came from M and S and I chose the heavy flow ones. They have built in protection and really do work. My neighbour also bought some and she loves hers too.

Thank you to the people who replied to my post.

I have tried and bought everything going, pads, pants, you name it, I have bought it. My problem is, I don't leak, it comes out of me like a waterfall. I spoke to the people at the Tena company as the sample pads they sent me didn't work even though they were the ones that held the greatest amount of water. She discussed what was happening and when I told her about the gushing, she said that was my problem, if I was passing water slowly even with a full bladder, the pads would be able to soak up the urine without any problem at all but with the gushing, it comes out all at once and overflows the pad as it does not have time to soak in.

With having a prolapse, I cannot squeeze by bottom half together to slow down the flow. If I could slow it down I would be fine and the pads would work. I have tried the ring, or whatever it is called, in different sizes, fitted by the nurse but it kept falling out and caused ulcers inside my body.

What a mess to be in, this problem has more or less turned me into a recluse as I can only go somewhere where I know there are toilets and when my family invite me out for the day I cannot have a drink all the time I am out in order to try and stop wanting the toilet, which then sometimes leads to a uti infection.

ftm420 Wed 20-Nov-24 17:22:23

Farmor15: I'll mention it to them. It turns out that my referral is to the wrong place. Despite explicit instructions to refer me to my existing specialist, they've referred me to another. I called them & they will see if they can change it.

They deny receiving any instruction so I'll have to send it again. My specialist's secretary called me to explain what had happened & confirmed that she had sent them the letter in October.

I'll also have to make a separate appt to ask about desmopressin, I expect.

Frustrating isn't it?!

Farmor15 Wed 20-Nov-24 16:28:13

A hormone called vasopressin is normally produced by the body so less urine is produced when sleeping. A synthetic form - desmopressin - is sometimes used to prevent bed-wetting in children. But some adults don't produce enough vasopressin - sounds like you may be one, ftm ,and continue to produce urine when sleeping. It's possible desmopressin might help, if your doctor would prescribe.

ftm420 Wed 20-Nov-24 16:05:16

I don't leak at night so not incontinent. I just wake up wanting to go all the time.

I've just had a response from the good old NHS who have informed me that I am now on the waiting list again, for the same specialist and the same issues that I was already having treatment for!

Now I have to wait until April 2025, when I was already in the system! The only change has been a change of name of the contract I was previously referred under! FFS sort yourself out NHS!

WHY? JUST WHY?

Primrose53 Wed 20-Nov-24 14:49:44

Stronger 🤣