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CariadAgain Tue 22-Oct-24 13:39:43

I watched with increasing horror as more and more of my parents time got taken by dealing with healthcare appointments as they got older. I'm seeing it now with a couple that are both friends of mine and they've recently gone into "Health appointments as social life" territory as I put it. That being having health appointments instead of "having a life - doing what they want themselves".

I'm early 70's now and, if I let it, I could see the same sort of thing happening to me!!!! All the more so in some ways - because I live in a remote area and am reliant on public transport.

So - early New Years resolution is to find ways to keep that under control and stop it interfering with what I've actually decided to do myself.

Any tips and hints welcome at keeping Healthcare Time to a minimum.

I've had to spend hours yesterday going to a town about 2 hours away by bus for a foot appointment and I decided I couldn't stand wasting 2 hours coming back again on the bus and so thought "Blow it! I'll take a taxi - a direct journey is about 1 hour and that'll save one wasted hour".

Today I had another medical appointment. Teeth this time - another town (this time 30 minutes away and thankfully the bus is direct between the two towns). So I've decided to save future time by getting the dentist receptionist to fix future appointments in accordance with the bus times (so at least I don't have to waste time hanging around for the infrequent bus service).

Made another resolution - to effect of using the house diary (A4 page a day) that I've had to get since moving here (for the notoriously unreliable workmen) for allocating a page or two next year for "My body" and I'll write down a list as we go of "health appointments" and how long they take (including 1 hour for walking to and from them) and add a column for the extra time it takes in this area. Plus another column for how much of my money is going out on what I call "NHS bills" (horrified realisation it'll probably be around £2,000 for this year by the end of it - private dentist, private footcare, earwax removal, skin blemish removal and that doesn't include goods I buy myself for DIY health purposes).

I need to keep the amount of my time and my money that goes on all this to as little as possible and am on a mission not to have healthcare time & spending taking any more of my resources than I can help and make sure I've got time and money available for me personally - ie to "have a life".

Any further "keep the health side of things under control" ideas anyone has welcome. They may not all apply on the one hand - but they may give useful tips on the other hand.

eg I was only thinking "Now if I was someone that did knitting - then I could do that whilst travelling on these buses. Not a tip for me - as I'm not a creative person - but would be a 'save wasted time' tip for someone else maybe".

CariadAgain Wed 23-Oct-24 13:55:12

Just learnt further lesson re minimising time on this = give their website a very detailed read in advance (ie for private practitioners) and I would have noticed only "9 years experience" (including the time lost to Lockdown) and that she says she may cancel appointments at short notice (or even in the middle of them!!!!!) for voluntary work she does too.

Lesson learnt - much better website reading in advance in future.....

CariadAgain Wed 23-Oct-24 13:03:40

SillyNanny321

Live a 10 minute walk from my Doctors now but keep being given appointments at their main surgery several miles away. I cannot manage buses anymore so means the expense of a cab! Dentist is 20 miles away due to no NHS dentists in our area! Hospital is across the city again a cab trip! Years ago when reasonably fit never thought a problem walking miles to an appointment but now forget too much walking as it hurts for hours after! As my Nan used to say, the pleasures of getting old but do beat the alternative! So I will just keep moaning & get on with it as I do not want the alternative for as long as possible please?

LOL at the "beats the alternative".

I saw a podiatrist (some distance away and an infrequent bus to get there and back) for a noticeable problem (ingrowing big toenail). Cue for she would probably be glad she wasn't a "fly on the wall" hearing what a 2nd (much more experienced) podiatrist in even further away town had to say earlier this week about her "workmanship" when my feet were still playing up 9 weeks later!!!!!

He was not complimentary about her and rightly guessed she hadn't been operating for long - and did a much quicker/much cheaper procedure on the one she'd bodged and it's sorted now. During the course of this - he said "This toe should be okay now for another 20? years" and I replied "That will see me out then - as I'm early 70's" and he commented on the other one "You may or may not need attention to this one again - ie maybe a year or two time".

Each to their own and I know someone here that says she wants to live to 100!!!! Up to her - but, now I know the average age of death for British women is 83, I shall probably need a couple of bottles of champagne to "drown my sorrows" if I live long enough to see an 84th birthday looming up - as I don't want to have that. Maybe it depends on what one's belief system is? - but I have the "standing joke" (which I really mean!) of "Do NOT revive me if I keel over with the family heart attack - as I will not be a happy bunny if I'm just starting to sup my first glass of virtual champagne in Heaven at my Welcome Home party and someone hauls me back here again - as the first thing I'd do would be to give them an almighty telling-off for doing so".

Hence my determination not to have any more wasted time going out on healthcare (rather than doing what I want) than I can possibly help and trying to work out "time and motion" stuff to minimise it.

But I'm someone who's been also going round my house thinking "Now I can finally decide how to deal with minimising time etc spent on housework - now that the local tradesmen have finally finished the work renovating this house. I'll do what I myself want at last instead of having to do that.....and have more time for what I want instead".

SillyNanny321 Wed 23-Oct-24 12:07:22

Live a 10 minute walk from my Doctors now but keep being given appointments at their main surgery several miles away. I cannot manage buses anymore so means the expense of a cab! Dentist is 20 miles away due to no NHS dentists in our area! Hospital is across the city again a cab trip! Years ago when reasonably fit never thought a problem walking miles to an appointment but now forget too much walking as it hurts for hours after! As my Nan used to say, the pleasures of getting old but do beat the alternative! So I will just keep moaning & get on with it as I do not want the alternative for as long as possible please?

SueEH Wed 23-Oct-24 11:44:54

“I combine an appointment with a trip to somewhere - tomorrow a physio appointment means calling in to a speciality food shop that I otherwise would think 'not worth the trip”
I do this too. Determined to keep an NHS dentist when mine re-emerged after Covid as private the only one I could find is in a lovely market town 30 miles away. I make early am appointments and enjoy a morning pottering and shopping (there is a Waitrose 🙄).

Luckygirl3 Tue 22-Oct-24 22:14:53

We have no public transport here at all, so you are lucky OP!! At least you can get a bus!

It is very hard for me to have a life between appointments - this is something I struggle to get across to the medics. I may be 76, but I have a lot going on in my life and doping me up with so many drugs might make medical sense but it does not make life sense for me; and sending me appointments that are duplications of what someone else is doing is not a small thing to me.

It takes me 40 minutes to drive to my surgery; and the same amount of time to drive to the hospital.

RosiesMaw2 Tue 22-Oct-24 22:03:47

I think you are overthinking this OP!
I have 2 dental check.ups a year, one hygienist appointment and that's it..
I'm 76
I rarely see a doctor (i think twice in the last year?) Sometimes never. I occasionally see a chiropractor or physio if I need to- fortunately not at the moment, but I really don't give it any thought.
Not for me the "organ recitals" or 25 different pills( actually none) or list of ailments.
I suppose I am lucky but certainly don't give it the thought you seem to.
As to what I spend? No different to spending at the hairdresser.
I could not obsess about my health the way OP seems to - too much else to enjoy!

Cabbie21 Tue 22-Oct-24 20:22:39

I must live in the right location. Buses every ten minutes, so it is easy : ten minutes ride for the dentist, or a few minutes drive if shopping, or late, and free parking.
Physio - five minute drive to another village and free parking, or walk locally for ten minutes.
Hospital 50 mins by bus and tram, both frequent. Other hospital- drive to park and ride, then Medilink bus.
Hairdresser 5 mins walk.
The only difficult place is a different hospital almost impossible if i’m not able to drive myself.
All much trickier if too poorly to cope with public transport. When I had to take my husband to appointments by car, Parking was a nightmare.

pascal30 Tue 22-Oct-24 18:20:19

Aveline

There are several universities in our city. That certainly doesn't mean that all our citizens are somehow a cut above those of other cities. Plenty of compliant people here too. Not happy about the rather lofty tone adopted in previous posts

They are slightly weird comments, Aveline.. but I suppose it is about accessible choice and variety.. not always available in small towns..

Aveline Tue 22-Oct-24 17:07:36

There are several universities in our city. That certainly doesn't mean that all our citizens are somehow a cut above those of other cities. Plenty of compliant people here too. Not happy about the rather lofty tone adopted in previous posts

CariadAgain Tue 22-Oct-24 16:55:18

Added - one of my own little things too is to "reward" myself for the inconvenience with a main meal out if there's somewhere suitable etc in the town I'm going to. I've come from a foodie city and am used to frequent meals out/try new things/etc - so I grab for any chance I get if I see there's a reasonable place I can have a meal whilst "involuntarily out" and save back a bit of time on making/clearing up a main meal that day if that's how the timing goes. Yesterday's trip out for my feet involved going to a town with a Marks & Spencers in (smaller than I'm used to - but it's still got a food section). Cue for me heading straight into the food hall there gasping for the exotic fruits I'm used to and can't get in this town and then heading out with a selection of them I'd bought.

CariadAgain Tue 22-Oct-24 16:42:30

Grannmarie

Just recently, the receptionist at my dentists offered to book my next check up and dental hygienist appointments ' back to back' , they had always been on separate dates before. Brilliant, I can't believe we didn't think of that years ago! I also plan some shopping on the way home, sometimes arrange a meet up with a local friend, so it's a worthwhile outing.

Thankfully I already have been ensuring the dentist and hygienist are "back to back" when I've got them both due. So it's dental check-up once a year and I have a hygienist just before them and a 2nd hygienist appointment in between yearly ones.

This morning he told me I need two replacement fillings (#sad smilie face) and they are going to cost hundreds of £s and so he started with "Have two separate appointments - and that will spread the cost a bit". At which point I queried and said I'd had two fillings at one appointment before now and asked why not for these. Promptly re-arranged to have them both done at the same appointment - and me thinking "Thank goodness I thought of that - and that will save me 2 hours down the drain having a 2nd appointment".

While I'm at the dentists if there's a gap in time waiting around for buses or getting there too early I do go into the health food shop there (as it's the best one in this area) - to get a bit more choice in food to buy.

Can't move - as I moved here in the first place because of not being able to afford a better house in my own area (because I'm single). If my premium bonds come up with a decent size win = I'd give it serious thought.

My first try at getting a dentist in this little town involved the surgery clearly not being used to patients from a university city (ie questioning....making our own decisions for ourselves etc) - as this is quite an area for "being told what to do". So I swopped, swopped, swopped again around the area until I found a similar dentist to my university city one - which happens to be the dearest there is here - whew! But needs must to get as modern and as "the patient makes the patients decisions - obviously" as I'm used to.

Ears syringed - they had to be - as I'd realised my hearing was a lot worse (cue for then finding out they're telling me I'd lost the hearing in one ear in Covid - something I've not gone into yet re any methods there might be to restore it).

Blemishes - one of the few things held onto with age is my skin is holding up pretty well and still looking reasonably young - apart from those cosmetic blemishes - and I hate what's happened to most of my looks with ages - so I do what I can. I'm not having/wouldnt have "cosmetic surgery" per se - but I decided to have a major blitz on a crop of seborrhoic keratoses that came up (and a bit of reassurance that they aren't the skin cancer my father and erstwhile brother were absolutely riddled with all over - yep....Dalmatians 'r us everywhere on them - so I'm rather skin-conscious).

BigBertha1 Tue 22-Oct-24 16:37:25

8CariadAgain* I know exactly what you mean and i made that resolution myself. My mother whole life seemed to be appointments which she enjoyed! I'm going to healthy eating, weight loss, little HPFs and plenty of exercise - golf and walking not gym but each to his own. I also keep a diary and plan time for myself and for DH and I together having adventures and trips. Always have something nice to look forward to. Keep negative people at bay.

Jaxjacky Tue 22-Oct-24 16:36:26

Depends what your having done to your feet, I sort my own out, daily use of something like Earol keeps the wax away.
One of my criteria when I moved years ago was good access to medical services for the future.

CocoPops Tue 22-Oct-24 16:34:55

Re: ear wax removal. After removal you can keep your ears free of wax by dropping an olive oil drop or two into your ears nightly.

eddiecat78 Tue 22-Oct-24 16:28:29

Grannmarie

Just recently, the receptionist at my dentists offered to book my next check up and dental hygienist appointments ' back to back' , they had always been on separate dates before. Brilliant, I can't believe we didn't think of that years ago! I also plan some shopping on the way home, sometimes arrange a meet up with a local friend, so it's a worthwhile outing.

When we go to the dentist I see the dentist then the hygienist - at the same time OH sees the hygienist then the dentist.

Grannmarie Tue 22-Oct-24 16:08:05

Just recently, the receptionist at my dentists offered to book my next check up and dental hygienist appointments ' back to back' , they had always been on separate dates before. Brilliant, I can't believe we didn't think of that years ago! I also plan some shopping on the way home, sometimes arrange a meet up with a local friend, so it's a worthwhile outing.

Baggs Tue 22-Oct-24 15:59:04

I thought fitting in as best you can with bus timetables – if you don't have a car available, buses are infrequent, and the services one needs are not within walking distance – was something everyone did!

Aveline Tue 22-Oct-24 15:46:25

All that faffing about trying to fit in with bus times though? Or just bite the bullet and cough up for taxis all the time.

kircubbin2000 Tue 22-Oct-24 15:34:50

Don't move. Get a local dentist.

Woollywoman Tue 22-Oct-24 15:32:38

Yup, me too (re Aveline’s comment)… accepting it gives you freedom to think about other things…

growstuff Tue 22-Oct-24 15:29:08

DanniRae

Aveline

Why not just accept that you're getting older and healthy type issues are going to increase and just move nearer the hospital/GP/dentist etc?

I was about to say the same!

So was I. I'm planning to move in with my partner in the New Year. We're going to look for a new house and one of our main priorities is living near a good hospital and medical facilities.

DanniRae Tue 22-Oct-24 15:25:16

Aveline

Why not just accept that you're getting older and healthy type issues are going to increase and just move nearer the hospital/GP/dentist etc?

I was about to say the same!

Aveline Tue 22-Oct-24 15:21:00

Why not just accept that you're getting older and healthy type issues are going to increase and just move nearer the hospital/GP/dentist etc?

kircubbin2000 Tue 22-Oct-24 15:19:50

I finally thesethings a nightmare as I have anxiety and don't do queues. Last week after 3 days I got an appointment for tests only to be told I can't do them until I'm off a tablet for 2 weeks. Now why didn't they tell me that on the phone?
Then I had my flu jab but they invited the whole surgery at the same time queueing down the town!

pascal30 Tue 22-Oct-24 15:11:24

Just being present is very healthy.. doesn't really matter what you are doing...