Flu admissions are up

I honestly don't remember anyone going to hospital with flu when I was growing up in the 50's.If t was to trun ing to something more serious then yes, but not flu.

It always goes up this time of year. Much ado about nothing I suspect....

I had my flu jab last Wednesday and have been so poorly for the last 48 hours coughing headache this has never happened to me before with the jab I'm hoping it will ease soon

RinseandRepeat, can you buy that or is it prescription only?

We’re going to 2 events soon that will be packed - younger Gdd’s Nativity, and elder Gdd’s big 🎄choir event at the Sheldonian theatre in Oxford.

I did have flu just once, over Christmas, it knocked my stuffing right out for over 3 weeks, and I was a lot younger then! Not anxious to repeat the experience!

Doesn't look that unusual to me.

ukhsa-dashboard.data.gov.uk/respiratory-viruses/influenza

Mollygo yes in my area, two main hospitals are full of flu patients....the strains are stronger it appears and did query this in my November post....as my symptoms are still affecting me 4/5 weeks on..

Bea65

Mollygo yes in my area, two main hospitals are full of flu patients....the strains are stronger it appears and did query this in my November post....as my symptoms are still affecting me 4/5 weeks on..

Are the hospitals full of flu patients or are they full of patients with other conditions who have succumbed to flu due to the environment and a weakened immune system?

I know the end result is the same but there is a distinction.

Witzend

*RinseandRepeat*, can you buy that or is it prescription only?

We’re going to 2 events soon that will be packed - younger Gdd’s Nativity, and elder Gdd’s big 🎄choir event at the Sheldonian theatre in Oxford.

I did have flu just once, over Christmas, it knocked my stuffing right out for over 3 weeks, and I was a lot younger then! Not anxious to repeat the experience!

NoriZite is available here:

birminghambiotech.co.uk/birmingham-biotech/p/norizite-nasal-spray

And it is available on a well-known online store. The spray has no taste or smell.

Are you serious - get everyone to wear masks again? Get vaccinated and just get on with it. I don’t know a single person who’s had flu so far and I have a big social circle.

RinseAndRepeat

I respectfully beg to differ:

‘FFP2 masks offer strong protection against influenza and other respiratory viruses by filtering out at least 94% of airborne particles, including infectious droplets and aerosols, making them highly recommended for healthcare workers, vulnerable individuals, or during high transmission periods….’

We also reduce the risk further by using NoriZite Nasal Spray.
Laboratory studies have showed that the NoriZite™ formulation can block the SARS-CoV-2 infection of cells, in culture. The research confirmed the complete inhibition of SARS-CoV-2 infection for up to 48 hours. NoriZite Spray is a product developed by Birmingham University.

Not many wore FP2 masks even during Covid apart from medical professionals and from what I understand they have to be properly fitted.

I expect there'll be a lot of people in those "token masks" again - ie the flimsy no better than paper ones - though I wondered back when whether it was to "demonstrate obedience" or they honestly thought they served a practical purpose.

As you can imagine - my thoughts were pretty unprintable either way.

More and more parents are becoming aware that there have not been independent double blind control trials to prove that it is 100% safe for developing children to ingest the flu vaccine. There is a significant increase in allergies, autoimmune diseases and autism among young children and the reasons are currently being investigated in the US. As a Granny I’ve had a good innings and would hate it if my grandchildren suffered any ill effects on my behalf. Parents have to put their children at the forefront of their informed decision making, that’s their job.

The World Health Organisation says wearing a mask will not protect you. It has to be 3 layers thick and cover the mouth, nose and chin. Hand washing is vital especially when you get home. Most people do not wash and dry their hands properly. It should be done for 20 seconds minimum with soap and hot water starting with the wrists, working your way down in between fingers, backs of hands in hot water. Equally important is thoroughly drying hands. Most do not do anything like that.

CariadAgain

I expect there'll be a lot of people in those "token masks" again - ie the flimsy no better than paper ones - though I wondered back when whether it was to "demonstrate obedience" or they honestly thought they served a practical purpose.

As you can imagine - my thoughts were pretty unprintable either way.

How lucky you are CariadAgain that you can afford the more expensive masks.

It sounds as if you think anyone who can’t afford them should stay at home under lockdown.
Personally if thats all they can afford, I’d rather people wore some face covering to retain some of their germs and binned them after use than wear nothing except . . .
Maybe a lanyard?

Patsy70

Are people still having their vaccinations?

Well I had mine and here I am, in bed but presumably, not as sick as I might have been. I’ve had 2 quite unpleasant days but am feeling a bit better tonight.
I haven’t had to go anywhere near a hospital.

Mollygo

CariadAgain

I expect there'll be a lot of people in those "token masks" again - ie the flimsy no better than paper ones - though I wondered back when whether it was to "demonstrate obedience" or they honestly thought they served a practical purpose.

As you can imagine - my thoughts were pretty unprintable either way.

How lucky you are CariadAgain that you can afford the more expensive masks.

It sounds as if you think anyone who can’t afford them should stay at home under lockdown.
Personally if thats all they can afford, I’d rather people wore some face covering to retain some of their germs and binned them after use than wear nothing except . . .
Maybe a lanyard?

Any excuse to mis-read what someone puts I guess....

I didn't own a mask back when and won't now.

As for "putting words into someone's mouth" - Nope I don't say/have never said anyone should stay at home ever. It's their life and not mine and their decision and not mine as to whether they go out.

But don't let that stop you trying to find a way to give a verbal kick to someone who doesnt deserve it - and is too nice to do that to you.

Thats really funny CA.🤣🤣🤣
You giving a verbal kick to people who wore the masks they could afford because you didn’t approve of them.

You didn’t own a mask back then? How did you avoid spreading your germs?

My daughter works in a large hospital she said there are several wards full of people with flu. The staff were instructed to wear masks today.

RinseAndRepeat

I respectfully beg to differ:

‘FFP2 masks offer strong protection against influenza and other respiratory viruses by filtering out at least 94% of airborne particles, including infectious droplets and aerosols, making them highly recommended for healthcare workers, vulnerable individuals, or during high transmission periods….’

We also reduce the risk further by using NoriZite Nasal Spray.
Laboratory studies have showed that the NoriZite™ formulation can block the SARS-CoV-2 infection of cells, in culture. The research confirmed the complete inhibition of SARS-CoV-2 infection for up to 48 hours. NoriZite Spray is a product developed by Birmingham University.

Yes masks do help protect those around us from anything they may have and protects others from anything that the wearer may have. I completely agree with your statement on the higher quality masks and the new nasal spray and as another poster mentioned, I'd rather be around people in closed spaces who are wearing masks than not.

In the late 50s I was a student nurse. My grandfather and many many more died from Asian flu. I got it and was very ill in the nurses' ward, as were others. It wss a very dangerous flu, and I don't think there was a vaccine.

Plevey08

The World Health Organisation says wearing a mask will not protect you. It has to be 3 layers thick and cover the mouth, nose and chin. Hand washing is vital especially when you get home. Most people do not wash and dry their hands properly. It should be done for 20 seconds minimum with soap and hot water starting with the wrists, working your way down in between fingers, backs of hands in hot water. Equally important is thoroughly drying hands. Most do not do anything like that.

So they say
All I know is that 2 sisters in law and I travelled together to the S of France by Eurostar and TGV in August.
A man sitting near me on the €* coughed most of his way to Paris.
I went down with Covid the day before came home, 1 sister in law went down a couple of days after me but the third, who lives in London and always wears a mask on public transport because she has bronchiectasis didn't get it despite proximity on the trains and in cars during most of the week.
Anecdotal, maybe but my experience.

I’ve been sniffling for past 4 days and have earache especially right side. My flu jab is due on the 11th 😫
I think mine is a virus and abs won’t help - I will check with Doctor on Monday

My BIL rang up tonight and he is very poorly with runny nose and dreadful cough. He had the flu jab and the one for over 75’s some time ago.

We are trying to keep away from busy places as our son starts chemo soon and his immune system will be weak.

I have had a nasty cold this past week and am still coughing. As my DS,DIL and 2DGD's have had flu, which they think they caught at a birthday party, (transpires that the Dad was already ill and went to bed for two days later) I went out to get them Calpol, paracetamol and some other bit and pieces. I wore a mask and actually had one woman say she did the same the previous week. If everyone did the same, it may help the spread. Why the ill person at the party attended I just do not know.

I don’t dispute the value of extra thick masks, only the cost.
I still think that any mask, used and binned, is better than no mask and definitely offers more protection than those who refused to wear a mask at all.
My only experience of the FFP3 masks, which we wore to travel just after COVID was that we got Covid whilst we were in Switzerland. After that experience, I went back to the cheaper ones.

All through the pandemic I wore less expensive masks, worked in school with the children of “essential workers” and didn’t get Covid.

How do posters view parents living below the poverty line being expected to use expensive masks.
Should they feel guilty for not doing their best to protect themselves and others or is it OK for them just to use the cheaper ones?