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Ian Brady reveals burial site.

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glassortwo Fri 17-Aug-12 08:22:17

Brady's legal advocate was detained in south Wales on suspicion of preventing the burial of a body without lawful exercise.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/ian-brady-reveals-where-victim-keith-bennett-is-buried-8056369.html

nightowl Tue 21-Aug-12 19:57:17

Yes Faye love is certainly very powerful, isn't it? Brady probably never knew it and never will know now.

Nanadogsbody Tue 21-Aug-12 19:47:49

Faye I suspect you are right.

Faye Tue 21-Aug-12 19:42:24

I believe nightowl the reason some people don't go on to commit violent crimes or even have personality disorders in later life after experiencing trauma (not just sexual abuse) is because they have someone who loves and cares for them.

nightowl Tue 21-Aug-12 19:18:54

Marelli - I agree. I wonder what makes someone like him. I have read that he was cruel to animals from a young age, and that is often something seen in a child who has been physically or sexually abused. It is also a warning sign that the person may go on to commit violent crimes. It still doesn't explain why most people who experience terrible childhoods don't go on to do such things.

johanna Tue 21-Aug-12 19:07:51

feetlebaum,
Let me put it into perspective. If anybody, anybody at all, were to lay one hand on my grand daughter I will hunt them till the end of the earth. And I will make sure they will never see the light of day again.
What ever the consequences.

Marelli Tue 21-Aug-12 18:47:04

J04, actually, I don't care, either - but I do wonder how on earth his parents coped with how he turned out.

JO4 Tue 21-Aug-12 18:43:24

Marelli - I don't care.

JO4 Tue 21-Aug-12 18:42:27

I'll leave you to be that holy then feetlebaum.

I can't be.

Anagram Tue 21-Aug-12 18:35:08

Not shocking, though. We all do it.

feetlebaum Tue 21-Aug-12 18:32:35

feetlebaum "This kind of wishful thinking is rather shocking, isn't it?"

JO4 No. It's human nature. And, in this instance, perfectly reasonable.

Yes, it's human nature. And no, it's not reasonable... understandable, perhaps, but deplorable.

Marelli Tue 21-Aug-12 18:29:40

I wonder what his own beginnings were - what his upbringing/schooldays were like? hmm

nightowl Tue 21-Aug-12 17:29:58

We will never know what is in Brady's mind; he has never shown any sign of remorse for his crimes as far as we know. He certainly never tried to ease poor Winnie Johnson's pain despite her heartfelt pleas to him. I think his punishment has been a completely wasted life, and the knowledge that no-one will mourn him when he is gone. He has not been loved, and he will not be missed. I don't know whether those things mean anything to him, but if not then he truly is inhuman to the end.

JO4 Tue 21-Aug-12 17:07:52

feetlebaum "This kind of wishful thinking is rather shocking, isn't it?"

No. It's human nature. And, in this instance, perfectly reasonable.

mrsmopp Tue 21-Aug-12 17:03:37

ok I take that comment back; it wasnt meant literally, lighten up, I don't believe Hell exists anyway.

Marelli Tue 21-Aug-12 11:25:50

I would like to think that too, Elegran, but don't think it's likely.

Elegran Tue 21-Aug-12 11:02:17

I reckon Hell is becoming aware of the consequences of your actions but being unable to make any changes, for whatever reason - in Bradley's case his own unalterable personality, which will never stop being manipulative and obsessive. Perhaps (being charitable here) he is in that Hell now and would like to die to get out of it.

JO4 Tue 21-Aug-12 10:48:52

A 'nothing' death seems too good for them.

Bags Tue 21-Aug-12 10:45:48

they will rot in the ground, same as the rest of us.

JO4 Tue 21-Aug-12 10:43:25

I hope he, and Hindley, rot in hell.

I hate them.

petallus Tue 21-Aug-12 09:34:23

Agree with Bags and feetlebaum

feetlebaum Tue 21-Aug-12 09:08:27

Here is no reason whatever to think that anyone is going to 'roast' in 'hell' for any unfeasible length of time. When Brady dies, he will be... dead.

This kind of wishful thinking is rather shocking, isn't it? Revenge is not a noble cause.

absentgrana Tue 21-Aug-12 08:35:58

I think because he is regarded as of not being of sound mind, the duty of care thing slots into place. This applies to anyone who is deemed unable to make rational decisions once sectioned – and that includes Ian Brady, however hideous and appalling his crimes.

Bags Tue 21-Aug-12 06:28:18

Wanting someone to "roast in hell" for eternity is as evil as it comes. Think about it!

I agree that he could have been left to starve, since that's what he chose to do himself. Why do we, as a culture, have such a hang-up about not letting people die? It's not the same as killing them.

mrsmopp Tue 21-Aug-12 00:26:16

It looks as if he won't last long now as he is like a skeleton anyway.
Just wish he had been left alone to go on hunger strike till he died, like the IRA hunger strikers did. He has been kept alive against his will for years (why??) and think what it has cost the country to pay for all his care in that time.
My heard breaks for poor Winnie Johnson who spent her life trying to find where her son is buried. Too late for her now but she is a peace at last.
Brady will roast in hell along with Myra Hindley.

Nanadogsbody Mon 20-Aug-12 23:37:17

Absolutely. I was wondering if someone had been at the gin bottle, in which case it's entirely forgivable. I once had three goes at writing a post after hitting the red wine a little too freely! Spoonerisms galore and words in the wrong order.