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The human rights of terrorists

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Bags Sun 26-Aug-12 08:23:24

According to this article in the DT, two British men who have been jailed for terrorist activities are seeking to have their conviction overturned on human rights grounds. Right now, all I'm thinking is WTF! What do other people think?

Butternut Sun 26-Aug-12 08:50:11

"..convicted on evidence obtained in England...." says it all. ECHR needs to butt-out in these two cases.

However, looking at what happened in Pakistan, and the involvement of MI5, is a separate issue and does need to be addressed.

vampirequeen Sun 26-Aug-12 09:30:01

Human rights are cited too often now. I don't blame the men because it makes sense for them to try anything but the courts need to put their foot down and use the human rights act in the way it was intended.

At the moment it seems to help people who shouldn't be here......such as the cleric. I may sound very 'Daily Mail' but if this is such a bad place people like that should be put on the first plane back to where they came from. Also people who come here then commit crimes should also be returned to their country of origin.

Barrow Sun 26-Aug-12 09:58:03

I am certainly no expert in this field but seem to remember that the clause most criminals use "right to a family life" also includes something along the lines of "as long as it is not to the detriment of the citizens of the country" (not those exact words but something like that). It seems judges just read the first part of the clause and not the rest of it!

dorsetpennt Sun 26-Aug-12 10:32:39

On Broadcasting House, Radio 4, this morning there was talk about Brevik having his right to talk to journalists. I think we are all somewhat amazed by his sentence of 20 years. Not even 20 years per person murdered by this madman. I'm sure he won't be released in 20 years time, hopefully he won't, but Norwegian laws do appear to be very lenient. They are such lovely people who just aren't used to this sort of crime. It shows with this sentence.

Nanadogsbody Sun 26-Aug-12 14:22:57

Would it be a limitation of our freedom of speech if I suggest we don't give any thread-time to that evil man?

nanaej Sun 26-Aug-12 20:33:52

Perhaps any appeals on the grounds of 'Human Rights' should be considered on balance with the Human Rights lost by any victims of the appellants... though that sounds a bit 'Eye for an eye' which I do not agree with!

But if there has been an infringement of a persons Human Rights as a result of illegal behaviour/action then the person causing that infringement has to expect to lose their right to have their Human Rights prioritised. I think that is the law currently. Sometimes it is reported in a way to make it sound as though the law has gone soft on criminals... have to look beyond the headlines to be sure .

vampirequeen Sun 26-Aug-12 22:39:35

Surely the victims of terrorists have human rights too. Surely I have the right to live my life safe from the bombs and bullets of other people.

NfkDumpling Mon 27-Aug-12 20:54:14

Here, here.

PRINTMISS Tue 28-Aug-12 16:09:34

Quite vampirequeen.