Sad death of Hindu mother in Catholic Ireland

Thankyou Jess !

Nothing wrong with being militant phoenix - sometime anger is justified!

I think that I have posted before with regard to my views on the Catholic Church, so won't go into them here. Yet another instance of laws made by men that do not understand how the world is for a lot of women.

I do not consider myself to be an ardent feminist, far from it, but I do think that no one group should be even remotely "oppressed" or treated differently on the grounds of their gender.

(JessM , I have posted on your TED thread, my comment there may too seem a bit militant, heaven knows what's got into me tonight.)

It seems what Ireland does not have is a law that says abortion is legal to save the life of the mother. It is a classic fudge. Bit like their divorce law.
They have a amendments to the constitution:

*The State acknowledges the right to life of the unborn and, with due regard to the equal right to life of the mother, guarantees in its laws to respect, and, as far as practicable, by its laws to defend and vindicate that right.
and after the case about the 14 year old rape victim, that needed to travel to the Uk for an abortion:

This subsection shall not limit freedom to travel between the State and another state.
This subsection shall not limit freedom to obtain or make available, in the State, subject to such conditions as may be laid down by law, information relating to services lawfully available in another state.
That's all.
Nothing to say that a doctor can perform an operation that will end the life of a foetus (even a non-viable foetus) if the mother's life is endangered.*

VQ your link has made me queasy.
There are demonstrations tonight in Dublin and outside the Irish embassy in London.

One more good reason why religion should not direct laws.

The poor girl was in agony for 2 days and the foetus at 17 weeks had no chance of survival - what on earth were the doctors thinking?

Having read VQ's link, I am too angry to comment.

Words fail me – a rare occurrence.

The hospital is wrong....the Catholic Church doesn't ban abortion altogether. It states that if the mother's life is at risk then an abortion can be performed. They even give a list of examples.

This is one of them

(4) There must be a sufficiently grave reason for permitting the evil effect to occur. In this case, the reason is to save the life of the mother, a good that is greater than or equal to the evil effect of the baby's death.

Most of you know I'm not a Catholic apologist but it does annoy me that the hospital used the Church as an excuse not to act.

www.hli.org/index.php/cloning/400?task=view

Oh poor thing. So avoidable. If membranes ruptured in first half of pregnancy what point in delaying the inevitable.

Our posts crossed nanad but it confirms what I said.

Ah! That explains it. She probably got the infection via the vagina if she was leaking amniotic fluid. The uterine contents should have been removed as she was fully dilated as well.

www.rcog.org.uk/womens-health/clinical-guidance/sepsis-pregnancy-bacterial-green-top-64a

Doesn't seem likely *jeni" she was a dentist and could have taken herself over to the UK or to India if she wanted an abortion. And would have been bright enough to appreciate the dangers. There was obviously something seriously wrong. I guess people get septicaemia in the abdomen for various reasons don't they?

According to this article in the Irish Times the foetus was removed after it died. The mother was, by this time, very ill.

But why did she get septicaemia? Was a home abortion attempted?

I couldn't agree more! I do not as a rule agree with abortion but when the mothers life is at risk!