Why it's important to add your voice to the scout consultation on non-believers

Bags I think having an alternative promise is the only way forward. There would be uproar if they did away with the God bit entirely. Bear Grhylls is a committed Christian isn't he?

It's not right to exclude any boy or girl.

Sorry to drag this out but I'm thinking.

Yes.

Ana - does your comment not apply equally to all philosophical beliefs, whether religious or atheist?

I would hate to think that children or leaders had to be hypocritical ( ie. to lie) in order to join the scouts or guides. That would not be much of a lesson in ethical behaviour, would it? Signed.

I find that rather sad, that young minds can be closed so early because of parental attitudes. Surely a child of 7 hasn't developed proper reasoning powers?

Bags I think it might be best to just leave the God bit out of the promise now. Do it quietly without drawing anyone's attention to it. Then they wouldn't need to make any big decisions at such a young age. The ethos would still be the same.

Is there an option for that? Will have a look.

I can assure you, JO5, that children as young as 7 can be sceptical about the existence of a god. Parental attitudes may be as responsible for this as for belief.

Oh it's such a hard one! I definitely think non-believers should be able to become scout leaders. The willingness and ability to do a good job is the most important thing. But I don't wnat children to get too tied up in worrying about whether they believe in God or not. Not at such an early age. They are hardly old enough to know.

Can't they just leave things as they are? Are we sure the kids really hate having to say the promise in its present form? I don't remember giving it that much thought tbh. I just wanted me badge so I could be a patrol leader! ( )

I will have a think.

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