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Andrew Mitchell

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POGS Tue 18-Dec-12 23:26:04

Well things are looking very interesting on the Andrew Mitchell front, aren't they.

If and I repeat If, Andrew Mitchell is proven to have been, shall I say, stitched up, do you think this could echo Lord McAlpine.

Mr. Mitchell I understand is a wealthy man and there were lots of people who might be in the firing line of slander allegations.. He certainly was one of many to have had 'trial by the media'.

I guess it all will come out in the wash at last.

trendygran Tue 15-Oct-13 21:40:07

Wouldn't be at all surprised at Andrew Mitchell using the' F' word to Police. He used to be our local MP and was not exactly popular He. always seemed aloof as if he was too good for the likes of an ordinary city suburb. He probably considered himself to be superior to the Police.
It will be interesting to follow this 'story' to find out who WAS telling the truth.

JessM Tue 15-Oct-13 20:32:28

You click on the heading Gransnet Forums in big letters and that takes you to a long list of topic areas. There you can search down the list - assuming the saintly OP has given the thread a name that gives you a clue about the content hmm
Or try using the search function which is pretty hopeless unless there is some unusual word like Mitchell. Then work your way through all the posts on east enders...

POGS Tue 15-Oct-13 20:05:38

JessM

I am glad you remembered this thread, I did too but I have no idea how to bring a thread back. I must get to grips with the technological stuff. blush

As you say, interesting times, I truly hope this issue will be dealt with in a proper fashion, this time!. I believe there is more evidence now and I hope the CPS make the right judgement call and he gets his day in court. His reputation was in tatters and to give him his due he has shown great restraint and not played the victim card like so many do.

I think the CPS will be making a decision quite soon, not before time IMHO.

JessM Tue 15-Oct-13 17:46:52

This has gone on a long time hasn't it. Now the IPCC are accusing several police of lies.
There is a certain irony here methinks. Many people think politicians lie a lot. Many of us have reason to think that police sometimes lie and behave unethically. Tory party has traditionally been 100% behind police and unwilling to think they could possibly behave badly (lies in court, fitting people up etc). Don't we live in interesting times?

Nanado Mon 24-Dec-12 12:23:49

I hope we we not frightened he/she/it away with all our funny faces???grinwink shock fbiscuit

crimson Mon 24-Dec-12 11:01:48

I thought J would like the forthwith word [it's a bit merliny wink].

Faye Mon 24-Dec-12 09:20:01

You will love us forthwith, we are so friendly. Keep posting. smile

jO5 Mon 24-Dec-12 09:12:53

he he he grin

jO5 Mon 24-Dec-12 09:12:28

Hello forthwith.

Hope to see much more of you on GN in the coming New Year. smile

Faye Mon 24-Dec-12 09:06:31

Welcome forthwith. smile

Movedalot Mon 24-Dec-12 09:03:32

POGS never heard that one but it is good and so very true.

Happy Christmas smile

Nanado Mon 24-Dec-12 08:25:45

POGS I love that line and ain't it so true?

POGS Sun 23-Dec-12 18:46:13

Mitchell, McAlpine, Christopher Jeoffery, etc., etc.

I read a good line today that some of you may have heard before, I hadn't.

'A lie is halfway around the world before the truth has got it's boots on'.

I think the press, media and politicians should take care when they openly make accusations that demolishes the character of a person, I dislike the media doing it but I abhore the practice in Parliament where they can say what they want and do just to score political points.

Movedalot Sun 23-Dec-12 18:23:54

He wasn't demoted, he resigned from his post, there is a difference.

This is what he said in the Sunday Times:

Me: "Please open the gates"
Police: "No. Please get off your bike and leave by the pedestian exit."
Me: "Please open the gates, I am the chief whip; I work here at N0 9."
Police: No, "you have to get off your bike and wheel it out."
Me: "Look, I have already been in and out several times today. Please open the gates."
Police: "no"

Then he says he did as he was told and:

As I did so, I muttered - though not directly at him - "I thought you guys were supposed to f*** help us". To which the policeman responded "If you swear at me I will arrest you". Then he left.

He also says that at the meeting with the Police Federation, after which they told the press that he wouldn't tell them what he said, a recording of the whole proceedings was made which proves he did tell them what he said. I don't think he would have said that if it were not true as it is so easily provable.

It does seem to have been a bit of a stitch up whish would not be the first time for soem of our police.

Time will tell.

jO5 Sun 23-Dec-12 18:06:49

Lol at the "forthwith" thing. (it's not a person is it? confused grin

NfkDumpling Sun 23-Dec-12 17:59:55

I think he admitted to swearing in front of the officer.

Movedalot Sun 23-Dec-12 16:39:10

Maybe Ana or did he just admit to swearing? There is a subtle difference and according to the Sunday Times the public are now on his side. There was clearly collusion within the police and it would appear their motivation was to put him in an invidious position.

Ana Sun 23-Dec-12 16:36:05

But I'm sure he originally admitted to swearing at one of the officers. Surely if he'd categorically denied doing any such thing at the time he wouldn't have been demoted? Has he changed his story? confused

Movedalot Sun 23-Dec-12 16:32:56

So it now seems that he didn't actually swear at the police! He muttered under his breath in frustration which is hardly the same thing at all. I think it is looking like a set up now, how else would the log book say there were others around when there were not? If this is true I think he has been very restrained as he was put in a no win situation.

Nanado Sat 22-Dec-12 23:57:18

ana I don't know JessM mentioned her first (see her last post)
It may not even be a her it might be a him or an it. No wonder I'm confused.

I think you're right crimson not very trustworthy character shall we report forthwith to GNHQ?

crimson Sat 22-Dec-12 23:40:10

...and I've never trusted bicycles either....

crimson Sat 22-Dec-12 23:38:49

Well, I don't trust politicians, and I don't trust the police. I don't trust the BBC and I don't trust the press. And it seems like I can't trust this forthwith person either sad. ad infinitum.....

Ana Sat 22-Dec-12 23:26:22

Not sure, Nanado - who's forthwith? confused

Nanado Sat 22-Dec-12 23:21:14

forthwith ah ha! You are displeased with him for not resigning immediately after swearing at a police officer. Is that it?

I thought all that was dealt with on a previous thread.

My understanding was that POG'S OP was about him being 'stitched up' by certain people over the pleb allegation.

I think I've been postimg on the wrong thread yet again Ana, have I? confused

Ana Sat 22-Dec-12 15:56:46

Well said, Jess - that was my point, too!