I really don't understand how the lovely, sane, wise and eminently sensible women who use this site allow themselves to get involved in those ridiculous threads. I'm not talking here about the interesting and stimulating debate that takes place - it wouldn't be our Gransnet in that case! - but I, (and presumably, many like me), simply watch the drama unfold from behind the sofa. Some contributors clearly interject to try and resolve the issues, but it never works. I understand the temptation to throw yer penn'orth in, but can equally see the futilty of it. So, my suggestion is, for the good of our lovely site, starve these troublesome threads of their lifeblood by simply NOT POSTING ANYTHING on them! Don't respond, don't take the bait, simply ignore them. Start another one on a less contentious subject!