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MargaretX Mon 11-Feb-13 20:03:57

Sorry I meant 40 years

MargaretX Mon 11-Feb-13 20:03:29

NO but I did on and off for over 4 years, I listen everyday to Radio 4, watch BBC TV and visit regularly. I am very well informed. Why shouldn't I be?

Ana Mon 11-Feb-13 19:48:13

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, MargaretX, but I was under the impression that you didn't actually live in the UK.

MargaretX Mon 11-Feb-13 19:29:04

oh vampirequeen thank you so much for changing the tone of this thread although it will be an uphill job.

As to immigrants, perhaps the first step would be to remove the immigrants from the hospitals and see who was left to nurse, advise and operate. Then all the cleaners and agricultural workers.

Vampire queen has stated it all perfectly. I'm glad that I myself have a more liberal outlook on things. It must be awful having all that hate and intolerance to cope with on a daily basis.

vampirequeen Mon 11-Feb-13 17:59:06

I don't think all the ills of this country can be blamed in immigrants and foreigners.

Society started to fall apart in the seventies and eighties esp after Maggie's famous 'no such thing as society' speech. In an ideal world everyone would be self sufficient but we all know that can never be the case. The young, sick and elderly will always need some support and there are many people who genuinely cannot find work.

I'm not blaming all our ills on Maggie (though my heart wants to lol) but she did go a long way to dragging along this path. Successive governments have played their parts too.

I think it's time for someone to be very brave and bite the bullet by looking at the country's spending as a whole. We need to decide on our priorities which I hope would be education, the NHS and the welfare system and make sure they're adequately funded before we start on everything else. Taxes would probably have to increase. Of course it will never happen because it would be unpopular and whoever did it would be punished at the next election.

So as I've nothing to lose here's my basic manifesto (of course it won't cover everything):
Properly fund education, the NHS and welfare system.
Link the price of energy charged to the consumer to the price paid by the provider
Limit the profits that can be made by the water companies and demand a minimum level of service
Encourage the unemployed to take any job available regardless of whether they think it is 'beneath' them by means of the carrot and the stick. The system doesn't help those who want to find work and doesn't chase those who don't.
I'm open to immigration but there should be tighter rules....they can't be taking a job that could be done by one of our unemployed.....they must learn to speak English asap even if this means we fund English lessons in the short term......child benefit can only be claimed for children who are proven to live in the uk with the claimant.
Ensure the road system is fit for purpose and improve the public transport system even if it means taking railways and bus services back into public ownership.

That's my starter. I know I've missed out the armed services and host of other things but I'm sure others can add to it.

Stansgran Mon 11-Feb-13 17:27:05

Since last year we are providing HIV treatment free to all foreigners visiting this country. It costs between £8k and £18k pa to treat those patients we already have depending on the drugs. It may cost more to bill the foreigners but I feel it is profligate. I thought the recent bill was a move to nudge people who might be HIV risk to a safer lifestyle .

janthea Mon 11-Feb-13 14:54:08

Farmo grin

Farmo Mon 11-Feb-13 14:35:48

Janthea, have been watching and reading forum topics but not done anything about anything yet. You have finally brought me to my feet (so to speak!).

Can't sit back any longer - what heartfelt statements you have made and I have to agree with almost everything you say. As someone who was so proud of her country and has always done everything she can to keep the Great in Britain I am in despair at what is happening.

Wherever one looks, it seems like there is some other tragedy going on to reduce respect/tolerance/common sense and the rest. Our laws, our education, our banking systems, our (former wonderful) NHS, our religious beliefs - so many watered down to almost meaningless trivia. I feel so, so sorry for our children and our grandchildren - it is bad for us but a 1000 times worse for them.

As to immigration - we always need hard-working immigrants (my own paternal grandparents were immigrants themselves and built up a successful business employing many) - but what is happening now and has gone on for the last 10 years plus has to be wrong - too many to be incorporated into the lifestyles of their new country. Whereas we can't blame recent immigrants for what is the problem here in the UK now, it certainly is a part of the problem and certainly causes great concern amongst the rank and file of us.

Whatever political party comes into power at the next election, just hope and pray they do something - but I fear the worst.

janthea Mon 11-Feb-13 14:15:49

greatnan I never said children were misdiagnosed because of immigration. I said the system was overburdened because of all the immigrants and this could cause problems. No body blamed the immigrants, just the extra pressure on the health and educations services that could cause problems.

Greatnan Mon 11-Feb-13 14:10:59

I doubt very much that any child has been misdiagnosed because of immigration!
The huge majority of English schools are not swamped by children whose mother tongue is not English. When the Vietnamese arrived the children proved to be extremely bright, and the Chinese sweep the board at internationl chess and maths contests.
Sorry, I feel that blaming immigrants for all the problems in Britain is just not borne out by the facts.

vampirequeen Mon 11-Feb-13 13:57:09

I taught in a school with 24 different languages and although it caused me extra work it did not affect English speaking children in any way.

janthea Mon 11-Feb-13 13:47:05

glammanana There's a very good infants near where my DD lives, but she doesn't want to send my GD there because 90% of pupils are non British and English is not their first language. She has friends of all nationalities so it's not because of race, but she doesn't want my GD to struggle and be kept back with non speaking English pupils who will take all the teacher's time.

glammanana Mon 11-Feb-13 13:32:27

janthea so many good points raised,my gripe last week was DD telling me that at the school my DGCs attend they are funding an interpreter for a second year for a family who have been in the Country 3yrs as the parents refuse to speak English at home,whilst they have the right to converse in their own language at any time I do feel that they should allow their children to embrace the education they are receiving and help them in some way.

janthea Mon 11-Feb-13 13:18:21

I was talking to a friend last, to whom I haven't spoken for ages. Naturally we set the world to rights. This made me think about how I felt about the current political situation and others things. So I set out it down. I warn you it's a long post and you may get bored. Say what you want! It won't upset me. If I like that you say, I'm pleased. If not, I don't care. So here goes:

I was thinking about what I wanted for Britain as a whole and here is my wish list:

I want everyone to be proud of being British.

I want the NHS to be the best. This is not going to happen as long as we allow illegal immigrants and others, who have paid no taxes or insurance to come here and claim benefits. This does not help anyone as the service is under severe strain. If you are sick in a European country, you have to pay and then claim back the money on your return to the UK. Why don’t we do that here? Look at the mistakes you keep reading about – children sent home and told ‘it’s only a virus’ and then die of something more serious. Cancers not caught in time because the symptoms have been missed as ‘nothing’. It’s can’t go on.

We can’t allow unrestricted immigration as we are a small island and there must be a tipping point. It may have already been reached. Services and infrastructure suffer because of too many people claiming benefits. I have no objection to people coming here working and paying their taxes.

The same goes for education. The standard needs to be raised considerably and not dumbed down to the lowest level. The problem in many schools is that English is not the first language and therefore children whose first language is English are held back by the rest of the classes. The problem lies with parents who come here and don’t make an effort to learn English and therefore their children have problems. I like cultural diversity but not to the detriment of Britain.

Justice needs to be toughened up! Stopping using the European Human Rights Act as an excuse not to punish or deport foreign criminals. People should serve the full sentence they are handed down and not let out after about a quarter of time served. I believe in the death penalty for crimes such as those where children are raped, tortured and killed. And if anyone did that to one of my children or grandchildren, I would happily throw the switch.

Religion – I think all religions should be tolerant of other religions. People are entitled to believe what they want, even if they list Jedi as their religion!

Politics – I am a Conservative and would never vote anything else, but I’m disappointed with David Cameron. I think he’s favours the Lib Dums too much. I know it’s hard for him in a coalition government, but he does need to stand up and be counted. UKIP is a little too much for me, although I agree with some of their policies (leaving the EU for instance). I suppose I’m somewhere between David Cameron and UKIP.

That's it!! gringrin