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'UK loses top AAA credit rating for first time since 1978'

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Movedalot Sat 23-Feb-13 10:43:34

I think you are right Barrow not really news at all.

Barrow Sat 23-Feb-13 10:39:55

Thought I heard on the radio this morning that the only countries to retain their AAA rating are Germany and Canada. Apparently this has been expected for some time and the markets have already adjusted for it.

Movedalot Sat 23-Feb-13 10:24:53

I agree with you Flick apart from the last sentence. smile I think it is beyond most of us to understand which countries are 'well managed' within this rating. We mostly have political affiliations which are bound to affect our perception of this but the UK is not doing too badly when compared to many EU countries and for that I am greatful.

I suspect I am in the minority in that I agree with some of the present government's actions and disagree with others. I always find it hard to choose which party to vote for as they all have something going for them and all have something with which I disagree.

FlicketyB Sat 23-Feb-13 10:04:41

The credit rating assesses a country/company's/individual (C/C/I) risk of not repaying any debt they may have. The methods of calculating this are arcane but include present indebtedness, likely future indebtedness, ability to service debt and a number of other quantative and qualitative factors that may affect a C/C/I ability or willingness to pay its debts.

In theory when a C/C/I has their credit rating reduced the interest they are charged for any further borrowing by other C/C/Is will go up to reflect the increased risk of default on the debt and borrowing may be more difficult. In a national situation this can lead to higher interest rates in the economy with all the bad/good effects this can have, companies paying more for business loans to invest in capital projects, which may mean urgently needed and productive manufacturing investments aren' made, harming the economy long term or even leading to some companies moving to a lower interest economies, leading to job losses, mortgage rates go up but of, course interest rates on savings rise, which is a plus for some.

In fact a minor downgrading like this is unlikely to have any significant effect on the UK. Other countries in the same situation, which I think include the US, seem to find that the reduced credit rating has no real effect on anything. However should if fall to A, or heaven forfend BBB, then the s**t really hits the fan.

In the meanwhile, it is a slap across the wrist for Osbourne, who has until now been able to boast that there is international approval for his policies because we have kept our AAA ranking while other countries in a similar situation have lost theirs because they are not considered to have economies as well managed as ours in the current situation. Well we now join the list of countries whose economies are not considered as well manages as they could be.

annodomini Sat 23-Feb-13 10:00:40

According to Danny Alexander (boo) they are not going to diverge from their course. No growth then?

JessM Sat 23-Feb-13 09:55:47

That the recession is going to drag on and we are not going to be paying off the debts in a hurry. Vote of no confidence in Osbourne?

iMac Sat 23-Feb-13 09:37:00

BBC link here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21554311

Well done, Osbourne.

What does this even mean?