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Good to have an Archbishop with teeth

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j08 Sun 10-Mar-13 11:32:08

welfare cuts

blueskies Sun 24-Mar-13 15:20:03

anyone remember the TV episode with Marty Feldman? he had all the gear and made a brilliant bishop.

Ariadne Sat 16-Mar-13 16:02:40

And me! Disestablish the C Of E, say I.

(Happy with Christianity, just cannot bear what men, and I mean men have done to it with their structures and hierarchies, rules to suit them etc.)

j08 Sat 16-Mar-13 15:35:41

grin #lets'earthemthen he he he!

soop Sat 16-Mar-13 15:33:07

jings Oh jings I'm lost for expletives [not aimed at you mind...] wink

j08 Sat 16-Mar-13 15:28:29

Give it some welly next time.

j08 Sat 16-Mar-13 15:28:15

I have never noticed that you are anti- religion soop.

You must do it extra nicely!

soop Sat 16-Mar-13 15:26:07

jings what about moi? #tutsunderbreath wink

Orca Sat 16-Mar-13 14:45:00

grin

j08 Sat 16-Mar-13 14:30:59

They are mostly Bags, Greatnan and Absent. And a fine job they do of it too. smile

feetlebaum Sat 16-Mar-13 14:18:18

Flickety - Why shouldnt bishops express a view on the governance of the country? The main groups representing atheists feel no compunction about doing so.

Who are they then? I only know of the National Secular Society and the British Humanists, neither of which 'represent atheists'. As atheist people have nothing in common other than a lack of deities it would be difficult to represent them - hte phrase 'herding cats' comes to mind.

A Bishop expressing his views as an individual - quite right and proper. But the same Bishop expecting his views to carry more weight because he is a Bishop - no. We ain't a theocracy!

Nelliemoser Mon 11-Mar-13 14:23:11

soop I hope John Knox's breeches had been washed.
wink

j08 Mon 11-Mar-13 10:29:17

I would hate to see all ties with history cut. But it is a difficult one.

absent Mon 11-Mar-13 10:23:39

Of course the clergy in general, not just bishops, have every right to express their views. However, extra weight is given to what bishops say by politicians – even Maggie Thatcher was quite scared of the then archbish of Canterbury – and I see no reason why 26 bishops of the Church of England should get an automatic right to sit in the House of Lords. If members of the House of Lords were elected I would, of course, have no objection to an elected bishop sitting.

j08 Mon 11-Mar-13 09:42:22

(We've got two threads on this now! grin)

j08 Mon 11-Mar-13 09:40:37

Agree with FlicketyB. Freedom of speech for all!

MiceElf Sun 10-Mar-13 17:28:18

Absolutely Flickety. Every single person, every group has a perfect right to express their views. And wise people will listen carefully, evaluate what they hear and then make their minds up.

Galen Sun 10-Mar-13 16:55:24

blush mea culpa!

annodomini Sun 10-Mar-13 16:47:07

Quite, Elegran - I didn't notice the misquote in Galen's post. blush

FlicketyB Sun 10-Mar-13 16:01:52

Why shouldnt bishops express a view on the governance of the country? The main groups representing atheists feel no compunction about doing so.

Elegran Sun 10-Mar-13 15:46:53

Knox is usually misquoted as saying "regiment" but what he was agin was the "monstrous regimen" or rule, of the queen. He would not have approved allowing a firstborn woman to rule in precedence over her younger brothers, dear me, no.

Stansgran Sun 10-Mar-13 15:32:23

The new archbishop was helping at the food bank in Sunderland before he left for the soft underbelly. Glad he helped.

Galen Sun 10-Mar-13 14:51:22

Soopgrin

soop Sun 10-Mar-13 14:30:47

anno Yes!

annodomini Sun 10-Mar-13 14:28:33

I think that was just misogynism Galen, aimed at Mary Q of S and her mum and, I think, Elizabeth.
soop did they 'cap' the women graduates with the same thing?

soop Sun 10-Mar-13 14:11:13

Galen When my son graduated from Edinburgh Uni' he [and other graduates] were tapped on the head with a cap made from the breeches of John Knox. hmm