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Daily Mail obsession!

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ninny Thu 04-Apr-13 10:46:48

Some members seem obsessed with the Daily Mail, if you were my grandson I would say don't look at it then.

absent Sat 06-Apr-13 08:08:16

Given that the Sun is the best-selling newspaper in the country, it behoves those who wish to keep a finger on the pulse to read it from time to time. No doubt some of its popularity is down to the page three girls, but I am reliably informed that the sports journalism is very high quality and I think that accounts more for its popularity.

nanaej Fri 05-Apr-13 22:14:42

DM readers would say Soviet Union others would say a thoughtful decision! grin It's all about points of view, mine is that those two papers are too sensationalist to be lying around a school.

I object to the poor quality of editorial work and cheap headlines. People were free to read them in other places but not in an educational establishment of which I was i/c. I read articles from DM on line and the headlines in the shop..otherwise I would not criticise!

Ana Fri 05-Apr-13 21:12:50

BAnanas! grin

BAnanas Fri 05-Apr-13 21:11:58

Educational standards or Soviet Union standards?

nanaej Fri 05-Apr-13 21:05:49

I banned the D M(ail) and The Sun from the staff room because of their poorly substantiated sensationalist headlines. You have to maintain educational standards. wink

FlicketyB Fri 05-Apr-13 20:40:16

DH insists that if we buy a paper whose political stance we agree with, we should also read one we profoundly disagree with. Hence the DM is one of the two papers we read very day.

In its defence I would say that it does have excellent medical and money sections on one day each week.

j08 Fri 05-Apr-13 17:10:26

#veiled

POGS Fri 05-Apr-13 17:05:45

I am not upset Greatnan I assure you. I say things as I see them and I am sure other GN's can make of our posts what they will/want to.

Like you I am entitled to my opinions, a fact that seems to elude some.

gillybob Fri 05-Apr-13 14:21:35

Absolutely true bluebell there was a thread many months ago about a young girl serving in the Army or RAF who had given birth whilst on duty. She swore she didn't know. I had to jump to her defence.

In hindsight there were probably signs. But I had always had very light periods and they continued right through to the end. I was just 18 and very naive. I had very strict parents so perhaps part of me blocked it out. I was still wearing my ordinary clothes and I gave birth to my son who weighed less than 5lb. He is 33 now and they say things happen for a purpose don't they. smile

Greatnan Fri 05-Apr-13 14:19:11

Oh, dear, Pogs, I hate to see you get so upset. I don't think I have ever called any other member a fool, no matter what paper they read. I don't usually deal in personal insults and I don't intend to start now.
I am entitled to my opinion of the Daily Mail and to criticise it when I think it has printed a biased article.
I think it has been explained why those of us who think the press should be held to account find it necessary to read a wide range of journals whether or not we enjoy them.
I think the Sun would sell less if it stopped posting pictures of naked breasts

bluebell Fri 05-Apr-13 14:14:03

Gillybob- is that really true or has your nose just grown? Not the size but the not knowing I mean

gillybob Fri 05-Apr-13 13:58:02

I know bluebell I was just pulling you leg. smile

No of course I didn't mean a US size 10 I meant a home bred UK size 10 !!

I was as skinny as a pin and didn't even know I was pregnant until my waters popped. Even then I thought my bladder had exploded ! grin

bluebell Fri 05-Apr-13 13:53:19

Gillybob - you do mean US size 10 don't you?

bluebell Fri 05-Apr-13 13:50:42

Gillybob my post was to POGs. I don't believe everything I read in any paper but the amount I do believe is on a sliding scale. I see the I quite often but never the Express. I do the Times crossword when I'm working away as the paper is free and sometimes read bits of it. I have picked up the Sun on the train sometimes - a good reminder of why I would never buy it . The Daily Mirror saddens me as it has the potential to be so much better than it is and it used to be but was dragged down by the Sun. I have read the Guardian ( I know that's a surprise) for 48 years and have put up with much mockery over that time for being a Guardian reader. One thing it does have is a range of columnists of all political views. Simon Jenkins is brilliant - I often don't agree with him but he always constructs a grown up well reasoned argument. He's willing to say if he's changed his mind. His economic analyses are first rate and very readable.

Sel Fri 05-Apr-13 13:47:09

POGS brilliantly put, thank goodness for a bit of common sense.

gillybob Fri 05-Apr-13 13:40:28

Hey bluebell I left hospital after having my son in my size 10 jeans. Mind you I was wearing them before I went in too so does that count? smile

What makes me sick is they talk about her as though she is the first woman ever to be pregnant. God help us when he/she is born.

gracesmum Fri 05-Apr-13 13:39:07

I read the Telegraph, I know it is biased but recognising the right wing bias I feel I can usually extract what I want and disregard the rest. I'm afraid I do not and have not ever read the Daily Mail except on occasion in Costa's where there was nothing else, but I am not being rude about DM readers, so POGS is wrong when she says "everybody and his dog knows they have"!!
Hand on heart I think I can say I have never read The Sun, The Mirror or the now defunct News of The World.

bluebell Fri 05-Apr-13 13:37:16

No chance, far too much fun!! I would however be very pleased to discuss the latest Polly Toynbee article with anyone who thinks it is fatally flawed.
I see the DM today stuck another blow for encouraging the esteem of women and their body image by talking favourably about how incredibly slim the D of C is despite being 6 months pregnant. I could write the story already that they will print when she leaves hospital in her size zero jeans.

gillybob Fri 05-Apr-13 13:32:42

Like the Aldi adverts............

I like the Daily Mail, I like the Times, sometimes I like the Independent and sometimes I like the free Metro.

What difference does it make? and if you believe everything that you see in print in ANY newspaper you must be a fool. smile

POGS Fri 05-Apr-13 13:26:46

I totally agree with you BAnanas.

It is obvious why the Daily Mail raises so many discussions, it must be the most 'popularly' read paper by GN's, at least by those who post. Whether they like it, hate it, take it with an adault prospective that it would be ridiculous to agree with all that is written, unless you are a clone and so stereotypical you read it with blinkers on, it is repeatedly mentioned as being read by all of the afore mentioned groups.

It has such a dominance with posters it is abbreviated to DM, why should that not also apply to the Daily Mirror? To answer my own question I would have to make a judgement against a GN who reads the Daily Mirror, why would I want to do that!. I would not be so disrespectful as to consider their right to read what they like, when they like and make their own adault decisions.

It makes me laugh when a post is being highly critical of a Daily Mail article and it is obvious the poster has not read the article in full, or they choose to omit the source of the article, as printed. I have noted in the past posts that call an article disgusting, right wing, dispicable, typical Daily Mail and yet the source of the article is from maybe a respectable left wing body or a non political group. I could have been quite sarcastic over this matter on many an occassion but it would serve no purpose to those with a closed mind, it just gives ammunition to be called a Daily Mail reading fool, ironically by someone who has just admitted to reading it themself. confused

Infact why do people read it just to call others who do the same unkind names.? Surely by their generalisation of anybody who reads it they have included themselves.

What I find so annoying is anybody who clearly has the gall to declare they do not, never have, used the Daily Mail to be rude to fellow GN's, when everybody and his dog knows they have. I would rather, as one or two GN's do stick to their principles and hopefully accept if they dish it out, then they should expect to get it back.

I just wish the whole topic of the Daily Mail could morph into discussing the topic/ subject with mutual respect for others and not degenerate into a repeated generalisation of the readers with such dislike. Sadly I don't think that will ever happen as the mention of the Daily Mail has such a knee jerk reaction to some. I am so pleased other papers that are distasteful to some of us do not get embroiled in such negative postings or we would all get nowhere. It would be a madhouse.

Movedalot Thu 04-Apr-13 17:20:03

confused

JessM Thu 04-Apr-13 17:19:25

The chancellor is getting on the DM bandwagon. Or is it the other way round? Either way it is clear, OP, that some people get steamed up about the DM because of the politics of their editorial policy.
Shameful chancellor. "Lifestyles" indeed.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22025035

Greatnan Thu 04-Apr-13 17:19:16

No, I am bored now, so I am going to read Private Eye and watch The Chase

Greatnan Thu 04-Apr-13 17:18:22

I don't think it is giving anybody else a lecture to express our own opinions of certain journals. I have never made any comment on individuals who choose to read certain papers.

I don't feel anybody is targeting me personally if they say they do not like my preferred newspapers.

Movedalot Thu 04-Apr-13 17:18:06

hmm