Philpott Sentence

He s a disgusting creep who stabbed a woman 27 times when she dumped him, raped another woman, and tortured and caused the death of 6 children. I don' t give a stuff what happens to him in prison, however un PC that may be.

Yes, sunseeker my major concern is those other children. Let's hope their mothers get the support they need.

Like most bullies, I believe he is a coward so probably won't fit in with the "hard" crowd. I wouldn't want to see him "got at" by the other prisoners, firstly because two wrongs don't make a right and secondly, prison officers would have to go in to try to protect him and could be harmed

My greatest wish is that his remaining children can get on with their lives without any stigma and that he disappear behind the walls of the prison and is then forgotten about by the rest of the population

j08 you have put more succinctly what I was trying to say. I don't condone violence in any way but this man is beyond evil and deserves to feel the fear that he instilled in others.

How can he not be evil?!!! He was willing to risk the lives of children by setting fire to the house under them, while they slept in their beds! He is stupid, but there has got to be an underlying evil in him.

I don't bay for his blood. But neither would I shed any tears if someone harmed him.

"I love it that the voice of reason is coming from those people who are not quoting religious texts extolling us all to 'hang 'em up' type."

I might comment on that if I could make head or tail of it.

MiceElf I share your optimism, but will not be surprised if, a year or so down the line, one or two prison officers take their eye off the ball and allow Mick Philpott to be attacked. So many high profile offenders that have killed children have been slashed with razors tucked into toothbrushes or had boiling sugared water thrown at their faces. The pecking order amongst prisoners is still barbaric, despite the best intentions of prison authorities.

Micelf - you are the voice of compassion and reason, whatever your politics, which I share, or beliefs, which I dont!

And, yes, I do think that Philpot should be treated in the same way as any other prisoner who has committed serious crimes. And I do have faith in the professionalism of the prison officers to ensure this.

I resent the implication that those with a religious belief are 'hang'em up types'. My left wing and liberal, with a small l, credentials are well documented on this forum. And so are those of many others.

To be fair to Archer (why? I must be in a good mood) it could be argued that he was writing about his prison experiences and that could hardly be said to be benefiting from his crime. Apparently, he and Jonathan Aitkin made themselves quite popular in prison by helping illiterate prisons to write/read letters or put together pleas.
I think it was Aitkin who said that after years at public school prison was a doddle!

I love it that the voice of reason is coming from those people who are not quoting religious texts extolling us all to 'hang 'em up' type. Phillpott will probably align himself with the hard nuts in prison, so will obviously misbehave. Adding to his sentence. He has a minumum date BUT it doesn't mean he will get out - he could end up there far longer. He has a huge sense of entitlement so will not be the rehabilitation type, he's also 56 years old. He won't get out until he is in his 70's and if he is a smoker and illegal drug taker in prison will be lucky to live that long. He may in segregation for his own safety for some time .
Jeffrey Archer wrote 2 books about his time inside. I hate his other books and don't care for the man - but these 2 books are very enlightening. He was not allowed to publish them until his release as he couldn't gain financially whilst inside.

I hope so glamm, I wasn't sure. If there isn't there should be.

Yes, but unfortunately relatives cannot be kept from profiting. It would have to be ghost written, of course.

sunflower Is there not a law now that states that you cannot gain financially from a criminal act ?

I just hope he can't benefit from selling his story, or any book deals, as he certainly would if he could. He would love the continued attention. Is that possible when in prison?

Completely agree with absent.

Baying for Philpott's blood – here and elsewhere – was sadly predictable. We've seen the crowds that hang around outside courts and we've read all this stuff about letting other prisoners loose to deliver rough justice on another thread on this very site not so long ago – to our lasting shame.

I think philpott is a lot of things, stupid, anti women, violent, self centered, controlling, greedy but ... I don't see him as evil. except for stabbing a previous partner, that was evil.

He planned something stupid to get himself another house, planned to make himself a hero, and like many arsonists things went out of his control.

His reaction to this is beyond my comprehension, you'd have thought he would die in the attempt to save his children having put them in such peril, so he's cowardly as well.

His wife was easily contolled by him but you'd think even she would baulk at setting fire to the house with the kids in it. But controlling partners are all too common.

He deserves his punishment, but I don't see violence is the answer.

Also I thing the welfare question is fair given his brazeness in wanting the state to support his tribe.

Having read everything about this so called "man" and listerned to-day at the sentence for his and his partners crimes against these helpless children I cannot understand why even after reading all the previous posts that they where convicted of manslaughter and not premeditated murder.
The petrol was deliberatley placed to cause damage and harm and it was obviously discussed by the defendants prior to it being set alight.So in my book that is premeditated murder and no one will convince me of anything differant.

Given this man's attitude to women I am delighted it was a woman judge who handed down his sentence.

Jesus said the one thing no one could have forgiveness for is harming a child.

Yes. When they let the children to the front of the crowd to see him. He blessed them and said this.

Yes. Of so the bible says.

j08 I'm not religious - did Jesus say that?