Thatcher has died

This is the last time I will say it. I genuinely did think that someone working in HR would know that and would be intelligent enough to deal with it. I have informally helped people in the same circumstances who did not work in HR and it was a very simple matter. If I say that I thought someone was intelligent I do not see that there is anything wrong with it.

I do not swear and am offended by people swearing at me. I am not offended by anyone assuming I am intelligent.

If anyone cannot accept this then imo it is their problem not mine. I refuse to be drawn further on this subject.

It's ridiculous. Shutting down major London roads. Lists of 'guests'...I thought someone who went to a funeral was a mourner. Security going to cost an arm and a leg.

Send the body up north. We'll bury her for free. We have plenty of experienced coal miners who would happily dig her grave. We'll even set up a 'peoples' park over the site so we can regularly go and dance on it. Would be one of the most popular visitor sites in the north of England.

My grandson is well aware of the rules regarding self employment (he is not unintelligent either) but he is also aware that if he rocks the boat for his employer he won't have a job at all.
How nice it must be to live in a cosy little world with no financial worries and secure employment.

VQ

I will give you 10/10 for consistency you have said before on another a while ago you will dance on her grave.

Each to his own your right to say it.

Movedalot, I am not assuming you are intelligent. I have no view on that. But if you initially believed what you say you believed, surely you should now be gracious enough to apologise for your false assumption? After all it has been expanded on and explained to you at length.

And as for swearing, I had to google those three letters as they were new to me. I'm surprised you knew what they meant!

I would not go as far as to dance on her grave, but I can understand the depth of feeling that exists in communities that were destroyed by her hatchet jobs. We cannot know what this meant to them unless we were a part of it.

I do not feel happy about the expense and inappropriate pomp of her funeral and will make a point of ensuring that I do not watch the news and catch a glimpse of it. It is quite wrong, and is happening because of the coinservative government in power - I understand that proposals for her funeral had been in place for a long time and that Cameron has ratcheted these up - including the inappropriate recall of parliament.

Good on the queen for trying to curb his ardour!

Thanks for that bit of info Galen I did not realise batteries were in short supply or that candles were difficult to obtain. I believe we got off lightly during the three day weeks and power cuts as we were on the same electricity sub-station as the local hospital. I was very grateful as I had a baby and a toddler and ducted air heating which required electric fans to distribute heat.

Consistency is my middle name lol

They've recalled Parliament ? . Is that to make sure that all the right MP's attend the funeral [and get paid for it??] Would it have been embarrassing if no one turned up from her party?

Wtf is a horrible thing to say to another poster .

Not at all necessary .

Tegan The Easter break for MPs is ending and they are due back in Parliament on Monday. However, David Cameron wanted to make a grand gesture so they were recalled to do the seven-hour tribute this week. If it had been left until Monday, it would have been at no extra cost; as it is, they can claim nearly £4,000 for having to return early. The Lords can all claim their £300 per day allowance if they turned up.

Bloody typical!!!!!

Bit two faced given the way her party treated her at the end; they seem to have forgotten that bit .

Really rather nasty the way everyone is dancing round brandishing their self righteous sticks over a comment Movedalot made. I think it says more about the mentality of the nit pickers than it does the 'crime' For goodness sake Bluebell has been very robust in many of her posts and I doubt was seriously offended. I can't believe we've reached the age we have, which I presume is 50s and beyond and behave like this. Using WTF is well known shorthand, I'm surprised anyone would need to Google it. The thought that Movedalot articulated had occurred to me too in a 'well, if anyone should know' type of way. Grow up people.

Sel, I do wish you would stop telling us all how to behave - you are not our employer or our headmistress, you know.
I would be bloody furious if anybody hinted that my daughter was unintelligent and I think most other members would too.

Oh dear, yet another person disbelieving what someone has put on this thread. How do you know if someone was offended or not? How do you know if someone is unfamiliar with acronyms? And why do you assume that what occurs to you is the only interpretation possible. A little empathy wouldn't come amiss.

Greatnan I commented as I was part of the discussion referred to. I remarked that employers needed to comply with H & S and employment legislation and as they did, the need and role of the unions had become less important. Bluebell then went on to tell us about the situation her daughter had faced. Then she said she worked in HR. Movedalot then commented that she was surprised that, in that case, Bluebell's daughter wouldn't have been au fait with the legislation. I thought the same thing. I know we tend to be thin skinned at any perceived attack on our offspring but I don't think there was any attack and I certainly don't remember the word 'unintelligent' being used.

Movedalot said on three separate occasions

'anyone would be intelligent enough"
'incredible that she wouldn't...'
And again
'intelligent enough.

No, the word 'unintelligent' wasn't used, but please explain how that word differs in meaning from the three examples above.

Clearly by the arguing still going on her THAT WOMAN is still able to cause dissention from the grave or pugatory or limbo or whever she is right now.

We are all being haunted by her.

Knowing things and understanding things are different. You can be "intelligent enough" to understand something without knowing it, and if you don't know it when it would be useful, that could be a problem. It's okay not to know things. It's also okay not to understand things, even when you are intelligent.

So yes, mal, your comments do come over as a bit sneery, though I'm sure you didn't mean to be.

What does HR mean? I've got H&S, but not HR. I understand wtf too; it means the same as what on earth, but with more emphasis. Nothing offensive about that.

Human Resources, which we used to call Personnel Dept. Just another way of dehumanising workers.

Bags Human Recourses. People that is

Mice I have just looked back at the discussion yesterday afternoon and I would say it was a good discussion on the relevance of Unions to the workforce of today in terms of safety and conditions at work. I have noticed Bluebell said to me Sel you don't know what you're talking about which I could argue could possibly imply I'm lying, stupid, whatever.

Am I to be offended at that, absolutely not, she may indeed be right. It was a discussion between two opposing ideas of thought.

No. It means what the flip. As I have had cause to explain on occasions before now.

I've been wondering wt flip HR means.

Gordon Bennett! This moves on quick! #bees. #bonnets

Thanks, jings. I knew it wasn't offensive.