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Measles vaccination

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j08 Thu 18-Apr-13 23:28:22

You couldn't make it compulsory, could you? Children still have to belong to the parents surely. #bbcquestiontimenow

Elegran Fri 19-Apr-13 19:06:49

My scar is definitely smallpox - I remember the nurse dabbed some stuff on the arm, then scratched it twice with a needle. There were several cases in Brighton, where I was living at the time (aged 11) and they did mass vaccinations. A long queue formed. We all had to bare a left arm (unless we were left-handed) and the nurse went down the line. My brother was about a year old and my father was holding him. His was done on the ankle, as that was easily accessible without undressing him. We had a hell of a time keeping that dry.

Nonu Fri 19-Apr-13 19:03:29

all keep saying BCG , what the devil is that ???////

I am sure i will going down with something now ,, panic , panic

j08 Fri 19-Apr-13 18:55:02

That scar on upper arm is BCG - like Galen says. Don't they squirt that through with pressure?

nanaej Fri 19-Apr-13 18:30:26

I had measles as a child and was quite ill. They think my mother's early death, from a bad heart, could have been the legacy of a childhood illness. I have taught two children who lost their hearing following measles.

It is hard to know if longitudinal studies can show that increases in other conditins are certainly related to vaccines or environmental changes. Far more car emissions for example.

DD1 could not have measle jab as she was allergic to egg and at that time i was told they grew the culture on egg yolk. DD2 had the jab and that was enough to give to her sister!

Orca Fri 19-Apr-13 18:19:47

One little orca was delirious. Others quite ok.
Nonu our generation didn't have measles vaccinations, we just had measles. I remember being kept in a darkened room.
Just heard about the 25 year old who has died.

Elegran Fri 19-Apr-13 18:15:58

Dunno nonu

Nonu Fri 19-Apr-13 18:10:33

Galen ??

moon

Galen Fri 19-Apr-13 18:07:31

Or it could have been BCG

Nonu Fri 19-Apr-13 17:54:14

Elegran , have i had the measles jab ! I am panicking !!!!!!!!

Reassure me ,

moon

Elegran Fri 19-Apr-13 17:48:28

That will be a smallpox vaccination, nonu if it is sort of speckled with pores. They did them on the upper arm because it was less likely to be in water (baths etc) a lot. You had to keep it dry until the scab came off. If you caught the real thing, you got those sores all over. Horrible! Elizabeth I had it and was thought to be likely to die. She recovered, but had the scars.

Nonu Fri 19-Apr-13 17:18:28

I kknow I had it as i have the scar on my upper arm .

In those days they just jabbed . It is not unsightly but maybe could have put it in a less obvious place .

Nonu Fri 19-Apr-13 17:15:42

Orca , well ours are okay then , as they had the jab.

Greatnan Fri 19-Apr-13 17:11:09

I don't need it! There are many benfits to living in isolation.

j08 Fri 19-Apr-13 17:08:57

There was a man in the news at lunchtime they think may have died of measles. I wonder if we all need doing again!

Bags Fri 19-Apr-13 17:08:10

Did the little orcas have measles badly, or only mildly?

Orca Fri 19-Apr-13 17:06:32

Sorry that should read serious complications.

Orca Fri 19-Apr-13 17:05:46

Oh dear Nonu!!
Just been reading up. Complications are much more common in adults who catch measles. Wonder why that is?

Nonu Fri 19-Apr-13 16:57:42

orca , we were exactly in the same position.

it was like my son having his nose cauterised for nose bleeds , after the procedure , on the way home , ^ he had a nose bleed ^

Orca Fri 19-Apr-13 16:52:01

It can on rare occasions. All my little orca cubs had the measles vaccination (no MMR in those days) and all still caught measles. Little GS had MMR and still caught measles. It's only 90% effective after the booster. I think our pod is genetically programmed not to accept the measles vaccine.

Greatnan Fri 19-Apr-13 16:36:06

I agree with all you say about the research, but surely measles is a disease that can cause significant long term damage? I think people have forgotten how serious it can be.

Eloethan Fri 19-Apr-13 16:32:35

Greatmam Longitudinal studies to investigate whether there is a correlation between multiple vaccinations and an increase in chronic diseases such as asthma, lupus, MS, Crohn's disease, etc., etc.

Chronic disease isn't as dramatic and noticeable as acute infection but it is every bit as debilitating to the sufferer and if the health of the general population becomes more susceptible to chronic illness, this is an equally important issue.

In the meantime, the vast majority of parents will follow the current recommendations and have their children vaccinated. Those who have strong feelings on the matter should not be forced to get their children vaccinated.

I agree that with diseases causing very significant risk of damage or death, like polio, diphtheria, etc., parents should be strongly encouraged to have their children vaccinated.

Greatnan Fri 19-Apr-13 16:29:36

Nonu, your taking or not taking statins would not impact on the health of others.

Greatnan Fri 19-Apr-13 16:28:30

I agree with all you say, Eleothan, but we need something to happen now to get parents to have their children vaccinated, or for sure some children will die or be horribly injured by measles.

absent Fri 19-Apr-13 16:28:28

Eloethan I wholly agree about Big Pharma and wouldn't trust them if they told me night follows day. At the same time, herd immunity provided by vaccination is essential for the common good. People have become complaisant because so many common infections have become quite rare and they don't recognise the seriousness of many of them. A concerted effort of education is called for, perhaps in antenatal clinics as well as in well baby clinics (or whatever they are called these days) so that if parents refuse to vaccinate their children their choice is at least an informed one. Do we still have health visitors in the UK?

Nonu Fri 19-Apr-13 16:17:50

If I was ever prescribed Statins , I certainly would not take them after hearing some of the horror stories about them .

I would take my chances .