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Lazy, overpaid teachers....

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Eloethan Sun 21-Apr-13 20:03:22

I believe the drop-out rate from the teaching profession is fairly high. Maybe they'd believed the notion of teachers enjoying an easy life, with long holidays and short working weeks. Perhaps they found the reality very different.

Greatnan Sun 21-Apr-13 19:38:10

It never occurred to me that anybody would not realise it was ironic. Perhaps people read only the opening paragraphs.
Yes, if teaching is so easy, well paid and with short hours, you would think people would be falling over themselves to get into the profession.
It is not easy to relate individually to every child in a class, write a report on them and keep tabs on their progress.

J52 Sun 21-Apr-13 19:22:18

As a retired teacher(38 years) , I always say- if it is such a good job, short hours, long holidays etc. why are those who complain not teachers? I suspect they really know how difficult the job is.

merlotgran Sun 21-Apr-13 14:50:15

I remember one or two teachers who wouldn't get irony if it jumped up and bit them. Always a bit of a pain during role play training which tended to spoil those leisurely INSET days. grin

annodomini Sun 21-Apr-13 14:30:32

I was certain that it was ironic. Mind you, Michael Gove would probably have taken it seriously. hmm

cathy Sun 21-Apr-13 14:24:25

Teachers are very important people, they play a vital role in the development of children and they can make a big difference to the life a child.

i am not a Teacher but know that as in every profession they come in all different shapes and sizes, some are committed and some are not so to brans ALL Teachers the same is ridiculous.

I think we should take care of our Teachers and treat them well, they have a tough demanding role.

Some people are under the impression that Teachers go home at 3,30pm, they don't, my closest friend is a Teacher and she never leaves school before gone 5 most days{she is very dedicated and abs loves her job}

Ana Sun 21-Apr-13 13:50:20

Perhaps it was just the title of the thread they were reacting to, jane...

janeainsworth Sun 21-Apr-13 13:42:48

It seemed as though some posters interpreted it literally, as an attack on teachers Ana, but perhaps I misinterpreted those posts blush

Bags Sun 21-Apr-13 13:38:41

Yes, I did too, jane. Bloody obvious, I'd say.

Ana Sun 21-Apr-13 13:38:07

Yes - isn't that the point, Jane? confused

janeainsworth Sun 21-Apr-13 13:18:51

I saw this on FB and thought it was being ironic.... didn't anyone else? confused

Ana Sun 21-Apr-13 12:40:45

Brave post, goldengirl! grin

goldengirl Sun 21-Apr-13 12:35:36

Having been a teacher in my 'yoof' with a class of up to 40 children I'm afraid I still think that with the school holidays they have an easier time than many other employees. They moan about Ofsted and yet businesses, especially those in the medical field have inspections several times a year - some of them unannounced - and failing just one of these can mean possible closure of that business. The hours in business are long throughout the year, bar 5 weeks holiday if you're one of the lucky ones. Teachers have umpteen days off plus INSET days which are NOT during the holiday period. I could go on........ But yes I have enjoyed the additional perks of being in a business and no I wouldn't like to teach in a school which lacks discipline and respect these days. And there is a lot of paperwork and preparation - but that there is in business too! I well remember being asked by a teacher if he could visit me at work at the end of the day. I said between 5 and 6pm would be fine. There was silence for a moment and he said he was thinking more about 3.30pm!!! There needs to be some realism here.

Nelliemoser Sat 20-Apr-13 21:46:46

I think teaching can never be an easy job. To be expected to stand in front of 30 odd kids every day and keep them engaged and under control must be so stressful. Never mind the out of hours lesson prep and marking.

I remember my father who taught at a technical college spending hours at home setting up lessons marking etc. That was in the 1960s when teachers were very low down in the pay scales.

Teachers have to be on top of their performance all the time. I cannot think of anything much more frightening than facing 30 kids at once.

That takes a heck of a lot of confidence and hard work.

Galen Sat 20-Apr-13 15:53:21

I've got it now and shared it! Thankyousmile

whenim64 Sat 20-Apr-13 15:21:21

I'm sending this to my retired primary school teacher friend, who was routinely putting in 60 hour weeks and working through half term and summer holidays doing lesson plans and organising projects for her 7 and 8 year olds, and that was with access to a teaching assistant for her class of 30+ children, all of whom did not have English as their main language at home. She printed and copied lots of her work at home, too.

Greatnan Sat 20-Apr-13 15:15:03

I'll have another go at sharing it. I do find FB difficult to manage! Now they have made it hard to send a Friendship Request. And they want 70p for send a message to anyone who is not yet a friend.

Galen Sat 20-Apr-13 14:32:03

Didn't see it on your facebook. I'd like to send it to my teacher daughter and niece!

Greatnan Sat 20-Apr-13 14:14:20

I was sent this on Facebook.......no comment!

Ian Roberts

Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, causing recession, and so we have to take the money from elsewhere because of these greedy teachers, their massive salaries are a drain on society, and they only work for what? 9 or 10 months a year!

It's time we put thing in perspective and pay them for what they do - babysit! Surely we can get that for minimum wage?

That's right. Let's give them £6.00 an hour and only for the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, holiday pay, pensions, etc, or any time they spend before or after school. It's only child minding after all....

That would be £39.00 a day (7:45 AM to 3:00 PM with 45 minutes off for lunch and planning, that equals 6 1/2 hours work per day).

We should privatise the schools, and the teachers, we'll pay it. Each parent should pay £39 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day? Maybe 30? So that's £39.00 x 30 = £1,170.00 a day. However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.

LET'S SEE.... That's £1,170 X 180 days = £210,600 per year. (Hold on, somethings wrong here! My calculator must need new batteries).

What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees who've been doing it for years? Well, we could pay them a little more (£7.75 an hour), and just to be fair to them, let's round it off to £8.00 an hour. That would be £8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = £280,800 per year. Wait a minute, someone's messing with my calculator -- there's something wrong here!

There sure is:
The average teacher's salary (nationwide figures from Sept 2011) is just over £30,000. So £30,000 divided by 180 days = £166.66 per day divided by 30 students = £5.55 per day divided by 6.5 hours = £0.85 per hour per student.

Which is a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE our kids! WHAT A DEAL!!!!

Heaven forbid we take into account the rights of all workers (holiday pay, pensions, etc) or highly qualified teachers and heads...

Make a teacher smile; re-post this to show your appreciation, and stop listening to the Tories and their figures....