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graham ovenden sentencing and lord mcalpine

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j08 Wed 05-Jun-13 09:40:35

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MiceElf Wed 05-Jun-13 09:36:14

I reported it too.

j08 Wed 05-Jun-13 09:34:47

Actually I think GN might be more inclined to delete my post questioning Lord McAlpine's motive for buying the pictures in the first place.

MiceElf Wed 05-Jun-13 09:34:05

Indeed Whenim. Ones heart bleeds for the poor Lord. Does anyone knw what he intends to do with the thirty pieces of silver he has obtained in libel payments so far?

j08 Wed 05-Jun-13 09:33:35

OMG! It is out there in the public realm. It probably hung in the Tate gallery! We have all seen little girls without their clothes on haven't we?!

How prudish can you get!

If there is going to be a discussion, it is best to know what we are talking about.

I give up!

whenim64 Wed 05-Jun-13 09:31:43

Jingle I don't think it is helpful to put a link to a picture of a naked child painted by a convicted sex offender. I have reported that particular post for this reason.

j08 Wed 05-Jun-13 09:29:42

"bad luck"? Who knows.

Perhaps a bonfire in the back garden would have been a more sensible way to dispose of a collection.

j08 Wed 05-Jun-13 09:27:58

Things that could be "got away with in the seventies" would never be tolerated now.

Who can say what anyone's motive would have been for buying his pictures. Even the Tate galleries showed them.

j08 Wed 05-Jun-13 09:26:33

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j08 Wed 05-Jun-13 09:23:47

this explains a bit about Ovenden and his work

whenim64 Wed 05-Jun-13 09:19:22

Just to be clear, Lord McAlpine says he is definitely not a paedophile, he was mistakenly identified and has sued some Twitterers who tweeted his name.

His private collection of photos and paintings of naked pre-pubescent girls by Graham Ovenden are now an embarrassment to him and need to be disposed of sold. How much bad luck can one man have?

whenim64 Wed 05-Jun-13 09:06:06

Ovenden as been found guilty beyond reasonabe doubt, and his many paintings have contributed to good evidence.

I struggle to understand why Lord McAlpine bought those pictures in the first place. Hmm hmm The 'old boy network' disgusts me. How much manoevring has gone on behind doors to help maintain the monetary value of these pictures, how do the people who were the child subjects of these pictures feel about what is happening now, are these pictures now apropriate for placing on the market, given they were painted by a convicted sex offender who abused some of the children he painted? So many issues to untangle and completely wrong to try to capitalise on this situation.

I hope Lord McAlpine does the decent thing and withdraws the pictures.

Iam64 Wed 05-Jun-13 08:36:53

Just read that the Judge in the case of the artist who was convicted of indecent photographing of children has given the "artist" a suspended sentence. Ovenden is reported to have been relieved not to have been imprisoned, but continues to insist he didn't commit any crimes, or cause any distress to the children involved. I also read this morning that Lord McAlpine is selling his collection of Ovenden's photographs of naked children. There is so much wrong with this - maybe I should be posting in am i being unreasonable to be disgusted.