Living Wage

Oh come doon aff yr cuddy, Ana, and you too, Gracesmum. I meant that anyone who was tempted to start a fight after one person stirred it up with a contemptuous post was gullible, not that you are personally.

And now see what is happening - exactly as predicted, one member against another, arguing over who said what and what exactly they meant. A gift to any dedicated troublemaker who felt like "spreading ruin and scattering ban down by the reeds in the river".

Head up Ana !

And yes, Elegran, I'm obviously gullible.

Oh I see - now it's all down to me, is it?

I thought the way deserving responded to the correction of her misspelling of 'Miliband' was quite witty. As for the rest of the post, I didn't pay it much attention, but didn't see any blatant 'personal attack', which is what some of these recent posts about deserving are verging upon.

I'm sorry Jendurham felt she had to leave.

Excuse me butting in but - I do hope no-one is going to be needled into an argument over nothing. Don't fall into that elephant trap. That would be 10/10 for gullibility, and whatever our many faults, that is not one of them.

So tell us, Ana unless you were being ironic what was so amusing about the gratuitous rudeness on display earlier? It resulted in a member deciding to leave - what was amusing in that?

And I wonder, bluebell, why you feel you have to keep this going...

Well said Minty. Let's keep it that way.

What a pity that a certain GNer found deserving amusing- I wonder if she could explain why ?

Can I be allowed to say, as I don't post that often, that for me the last couple of weeks has shown this forum in an amazing light, one of compassion and thoughtfulness and genuine care and concern.
Unfortunately by the very nature of all forms of social media there will always be those who are insensitive,offensive etc, but for those of you who are regular posters, are more than able to rise above those who obviously don't have anything better to do than to be hurtful.
Keep doing what you do.

Indeed. MiceElf We could all be say anything at all on here, and no-one could know our true lives and histories. It is difficult to disguise your attitudes and opinions, though, when posting repeatedly. Unless, of course, one wanted to plant controversial statements to provoke dissent and acrimoniousness among other posters. I seem to remember that there is a name for that.

Definitely intellectually and emotionally challenged.

Elegran, I'm afraid some people are not always truthful on social media. Going by the internal evidence of previous texts it would seem to me that the person referred to was intellectually challenged in a number of ways.

I missed the deleted post, but the references to it did not surprise me. It appears to me that this poster always despises anyone with an IQ of less than double the average, and anyone who lackes their killer instinct when responding to posts about those receiving benefits.

They claim to be/have been a lecturer, but I don't know in what subject.

Lecturers are not in general people who have much experience of poorly paid work.

I think after all we've experienced of the mutual support of this last couple of weeks, nastiness comes as an unwelcome and totally unnecessary intrusion. There are some sites where it is non-existent, yet lots of different views can be expressed by opinionated people.

I agree Tax Credits for working people signifies something is wrong. A Living Wage and fairer taxation levels would help so many people.

I just HATE it when people get nasty etc with each other - there really is no need for it and as people have said it ruins discussions. I would not like to see anyone else feel that they need to leave but I can see why they would.

Aka - absolutely. Life is full of interesting people, with varied opinions, and gransnet it a great place to meet and discuss all manner of things. I've found the domestic joy threads, well a joy frankly. I also agree with Aka about apologies - it's 'manners' isn't it. I expect given the age range on gransnet, that we were all brought up brimming with pleases, thank you's, excuse me's - and to coin a phrase - it did us no harm.

Yes, I agree with you Jess, Nightowl, Mice, Iam . i often disagree with some of the aforementioned in one thread, but don't let it influence me in another! Also am apology always goes a long way to settling things to right.

Don't let's have anyone else go please.

I always assumed deserving was male. Is this kind of assumption on my part inverted sexism maybe, - like inverted snobbery?
Please folks, if you want this forum to be courteous and reasonable, if someone has been rude or unpleasant and broken forum guidelines, report 'em, don't take their remarks to heart and get upset, or raise to their bait in irritation. GN really has been at its best in the last few weeks.

Deserving - I also reported your post and like Aka, I'm telling you, and everyone else this.
Nightowl - I agree with your post. I have no problem with discussion where folks express views that differ, it's good to talk with people who don't all take the same approach to life. I have no desire to talk with people who seem only to bring unnecessary conflict. Does this mean I leave gransnet is the question I'll be pondering on my morning walk.

Iam64, you have said exactly my thoughts. Jen D please come back, I've just tried to send you a pm and find you gone. Don't let ignorant, rude pathetic posters drive you away. We need people like you.

What a sour note you have brought into the discussion deserving.

I don't think I can be bothered with this site any longer either. The last couple of weeks brought out the best in people, but it was too much to hope it would last. Think I'll have a break for a while and come back when I've had a think.

As I found your post offensive I reported it. Get over that deserving ! Unlike some I don't do things behind the scenes so was upfront in telling you. Get over that too!

Prior to Greatnan going missing, I was beginning to feel disenchanted with the unpleasant tone of some contributors to gransnet discussions. I haven't had much enthusiasm for threads this week, as the news about Greatnan has left me heavy hearted.
This morning, I hoped to enjoy catching up on some of the discussions. My enthusiasm was knocked on the head by reading the negative, opinionated, cold, self centred, anti life comments posted on this thread by Deserving. I am sorry to read the Jendurham has left, but I'm not surprised.

Thank you Aka I hope Jendurham comes back it would be sad to loose her.