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Terrorism - the new catch-all

(121 Posts)
Aka Tue 20-Aug-13 15:51:51

She's the only person I know who used the phrase 'didums' it used to drive my younger brother mad. I didn't know however you'd been released discharged grin

Aka Tue 20-Aug-13 15:49:26

I knew it....you're my sister!

bluebell Tue 20-Aug-13 15:48:23

Oh didums Aka and there was me trying to be nice!!

Aka Tue 20-Aug-13 15:38:49

Sorry fat fingers that should have read insightful comments.

Aka Tue 20-Aug-13 15:38:16

Ditto BB I always treasure your spiteful comments too hmm

bluebell Tue 20-Aug-13 14:46:08

Oh Nonu, thank you, yet again for such a helpful, thoughtful comment- I don't know how we'd manage without you

bluebell Tue 20-Aug-13 14:43:38

Bags - you are right - that last link and the discussion was excellent.really thought provoking and intelligent - shows what a tricky area this is but I have an instinctive distrust of so much anti-terrorism rhetoric and the abuse of power that has resulted. The Met is not fit for purpose and both it and the government have been looking for the opportunity to 'get' the Guardian post-hacking. If I feared for my freedom in a situation involving national security would I approach a) the Met b) the Home Sec or c) a Guardian journalist?

Nonu Tue 20-Aug-13 14:39:38

Well I will be okay then as I only say good things about the U.S of A.

sunshine

MargaretX Tue 20-Aug-13 14:25:36

What I found questionable was that Miranda was only changing planes at Heathrow and was arrested 'in transit' and officially in 'no man's land ' like Snowden was in Russia.

The whole thing stinks. this material is in the hands of a lot of people and just trashing his lap top won't get rid of it. Radio 4 this afternoon said that the White House had been informed and that journalists relied on information being carried about from country to country by other people.
Perhaps being friends with the US is more dangerous for the UK than many other things for which other people get arrested for.

Perhaps we have to be careful what we write about the US on GN. Perhaps there are other grannies noting what we write and finding out our IP addresses.

Bags Tue 20-Aug-13 14:11:38

bluebell wink. I especially love the Hodges bit about being in a hurry to get to duty free.

Bags Tue 20-Aug-13 14:10:44

Discussion of legality here with much interesting discussion following.

bluebell Tue 20-Aug-13 13:59:03

Bags grin

Bags Tue 20-Aug-13 13:55:27

Hodges' article is rather amusing too.

Bags Tue 20-Aug-13 13:54:32

Dan Hodges raises a few rather important points too.

Bags Tue 20-Aug-13 13:45:10

For another take see Tim Stanley's blog in the Telegraph. Both sides of the coin and all that.

Galen Tue 20-Aug-13 13:02:41

The us embassy says ' not us'

LizG Tue 20-Aug-13 12:13:09

We are hanging on to American coat-tails again and doing what we are told!

bluebell Tue 20-Aug-13 11:39:29

It's quite alarming on so many levels - our 'special' relationship with the US, journalistic freedom and our right to know, abuse of police powers ....and where on earth is the terrorism in all this?

HildaW Tue 20-Aug-13 11:14:34

Bluebell - from what I saw it looked like an alarming over reaction. Am no expert so do not understand what was supposed to be going on but I do hope the people involved and their journalist contacts keep the pressure on to get some questions answered.

bluebell Tue 20-Aug-13 11:11:53

sad no one wants to discuss this - it really matters.

bluebell Tue 20-Aug-13 10:26:57

www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/19/white-house-david-miranda-heads-up

Not quite so proud to be British now? The Met continues to have losr the plot - what definition of 'terrorism' includes this episode?