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In praise of Iain Duncan Smith's Welfare Reforms

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glammanana Fri 24-Jan-14 16:08:17

Thanks Galen that explains what I have heard.

Stansgran Fri 24-Jan-14 15:44:24

I don't know anyone on benefits so I can't judge but I have a cleaner coming from a family of low income brothers and sisters and families all hard workers in jobs with children the same. She lives in a village where some of her neighbours drive her to fury with their determination not to work. She also works in a shop where again she rails against the badly fed children with parents buying drink.

Galen Fri 24-Jan-14 15:09:54

Not to my knowledge. That would only be the case if they were in the support group for ESA.

glammanana Fri 24-Jan-14 14:37:38

sunseeker totally agree on that point,I was told and I do not know how true it is as I never believe everything I am told that if a person is an alcholic they get extra £s per week benefit monies if it is true I would be totally ashamed of the system that would allow this to happen.

Icyalittle Fri 24-Jan-14 14:36:02

I've got a lot of respect for IDS, and for Frank Field too. Both seem to me to look for effective solutions rather than sound bites.

sunseeker Fri 24-Jan-14 13:55:42

I agree, but we must be careful that in getting the workshy off benefits we don't hurt those who are in genuine need.

I know of a man who has been on benefits for over 20 years because he has a drink problem, yet he refuses to take part in any programme that would help him give up drinking - I would like to see his benefits stopped.

petra Fri 24-Jan-14 13:48:55

Do you remember the programme some years ago ( when Labour were in power) when some high profile people spent a week living with people on benefit.
IDS was one of these. He formed his view then of how wrong it was that people were trapped in benefit. I hope he stays strong, because this has to stop. Unfortunately you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.

jinglbellsfrocks Thu 23-Jan-14 16:35:05

Excellent speech. Thank you ninny.

ninny Thu 23-Jan-14 14:16:42

At last a politician putting Britain first and not trying to win a popularity contest.

blogs.spectator.co.uk/the-spectator/2014/01/iain-duncan-smiths-speech-on-welfare-reform-full-text/