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Philip Seymour Hoffman RIP

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Grannyknot Sun 02-Feb-14 20:56:03

I was so sorry to read on Twitter tonight that Philip Seymour Hoffman had relapsed and died today from a drug overdose. He had such presence, one of my favourite actors. Gone too soon.

Grannyknot Tue 04-Feb-14 18:40:28

He was in loads of good movies including The Talented Mr Ripley, Cold Mountain, The Big Lebowski.

absent Tue 04-Feb-14 18:22:17

Cocaine and heroin are different kinds of drugs TriciaF although both can be severely damaging.

TriciaF Tue 04-Feb-14 16:44:12

ps just realised, Nigella was accused of a similar thing (having drugs in a house with children.)
Thank goodness she didn't go as far as this.

Paige Tue 04-Feb-14 16:42:43

You should see the movie Capote.The way he transformed himself into that character was amazing! He was a very troubled gentle soul and a loss to all who knew him. sad

TriciaF Tue 04-Feb-14 16:42:19

A family man has died of a drug overdose, which is very sad.
But there must be many other such tragedies, why such a fuss about him?
I've never heard of him either.

FlicketyB Tue 04-Feb-14 16:34:12

Actually I hadn't heard of him either and even hearing all the films he had been in left me none the wiser because I hadn't seen any of them.

feetlebaum Tue 04-Feb-14 16:31:35

@Bellasnana - you are not alone - I had never heard of him and certainly never seen anything he was in. It's not anything I am proud of - nor am I ashamed of it...

janthea Tue 04-Feb-14 10:16:31

I believe I read that his relationship broke up because he had drugs in the house with the children. If so, that would appear he was back on drugs before the relationship broke down.

JessM Tue 04-Feb-14 10:12:50

As I implied in earlier posts, many people, particularly in the US, are given large amounts of anti-depressants etc by their "therapists" . They get hooked and the addiction makes it more and more difficult for them to cope with the ups and downs of life.
Judy Garland was fed the drugs to try to keep her functioning and pulling in the dough - remember that?

nightowl Tue 04-Feb-14 09:50:09

Selfish when judged rationally Flickety but people who seek solace in hard drugs are not often rational. I read that his relationship had broken up and he had moved out of the family home. Perhaps in a moment of weakness it was all too easy for him to fall back on old habits. The quantities of heroin were shocking, but who knows how the mind of an addict works? I think it is all terribly sad for him, his partner and most of all for his children.

FlicketyB Tue 04-Feb-14 08:46:33

It is reported today that the police found 70 bags of what they believe is heroin in his flat. I do not condemn him as human scum or any of the other pejoratives I understand have been used, not on Gransnet, but I still think that for a man in his 40s, whether successful or not, who has a wife and small children, to return to taking hard drugs when he knows the risks he faces is monumentally selfish.

absent Mon 03-Feb-14 21:14:48

MiceElf You may well be right but Oscar winners are public figures (and quite well known) whereas social workers and nurses aren't. I wouldn't know about the UK news now but it wouldn't surprise me if it was disproportionate. For a long time the BBC certainly was becoming increasingly like the Sun.

MiceElf Mon 03-Feb-14 20:22:13

That maybe true. I don't know. As I said I had no idea who he was, and I suspect many other people who watched the news had no idea either. I found it odd that it was given such prominence when there are so many news stories that are inadequately reported.

My point was - and I can only comment on the news reports that I have seen - that these tributes spoke as if he was a huge loss to everyone, (only really, I think to his family and perhaps to film goers) and the tone was reverential.

I wouldn't dream of commenting on his personal problems and every death of this sort should be regretted. But if, instead of being an actor, he was a well known member of one of the occupations I referred to above, I suspect the headlines and commentary would have been much more judgmental.

Tegan Mon 03-Feb-14 20:16:29

A lot of actors/musicians etc are not the uber confident people they appear to be. Often full of self doubt and many struggle with coming to terms with their fame [think Kurt Cobain]. I'd say that people who make music and films are incredibly important, because they reach out to so many people and bring a lot of happiness and enrichment in the process.

absent Mon 03-Feb-14 20:10:26

MiceElf But he wasn't – he was an immensely talented actor and he was Philip Seymour Hoffman. Surely tributes following someone's death are always personal and relate to that person alone.

MiceElf Mon 03-Feb-14 19:58:03

I've just got in and watched the news. I had no idea who he was although a death from a drugs overdose is sad for him and for his family.

But I am wondering what the headlines would be if the deceased had been a much respected social worker, a teacher, a care worker or a nurse instead of an actor.

I rather suspect that the 'tributes' would have somewhat different in tone.

PRINTMISS Mon 03-Feb-14 16:48:22

I think when we hear of these things happening, it brings home the real life actors/actresses live - not all of course take to drugs and become victims, and although it seems a very glamorous life-style, living in the media eye, knowing there will always be someone to knock you off your pedestal, and coming down of that 'high' after a fantastic performance cannot be easy. Such a talented man and such a short life.

FlicketyB Mon 03-Feb-14 16:23:02

I feel desperately sorry for his wife and children, but apart from that if anyone chooses to take drugs - and he had got clean, been clean for a long time and started again, its a risk you take.

Tegan Mon 03-Feb-14 12:42:14

On a purely selfish note I realised he was in the Hunger Games films [which I love]. It seems that he has filmed his bit for film 3 but not sure what happens about film 4 [if his character was still in it]. Must be a nightmare for directors shooting these film series; I often wondered about the actors in LOTR's some of whom were quite old.

glammanana Mon 03-Feb-14 08:55:55

Such a terrible waste to the acting profession & three little ones lost their father very sad.I also thought he was a quite a bit older.

JessM Mon 03-Feb-14 08:25:55

Huge amounts of drugs are prescribed by the American psychiatric industry.
Including keeping children on ritalin etc for years.
Many, many extremely good livings have been made by psychotherapists.
They should be the most chilled out nation on earth hmm

baubles Mon 03-Feb-14 08:24:07

Well said absent.

Aka Mon 03-Feb-14 07:15:25

sad

Bellasnana Mon 03-Feb-14 06:20:51

Am I the only one who has never heard of this actor? Very sad to die so young for whatever reason sad

absent Mon 03-Feb-14 05:55:49

He graduated to heroin –very briefly – after an addiction to prescription drugs. He sought help very quickly. Sadly, it went pear-shaped.

I am shocked by some of the comments I have read – not, I hasten to add, on Gransnet – as if no one else ever had addictions to alcohol, tobacco, chocolate, gambling, casual sex. As if no one else had suffered problems from eating disorders to post-natal depression. I find it horrible to read things that condemn this superb actor as some kind of human scum. There are some very nasty people out there.