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Rory Stewart

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Tegan Sun 30-Mar-14 23:29:46

Just watched his programme about the Border Country and googled him. Going to see what price I can get to have a bet that he will be Prime Minister one day. The man is amazing.

janeainsworth Wed 02-Apr-14 23:01:05

Jen
"He's only the MP for Penrith because he was turned down for Beaconsfield,"
And your point is.......?

annodomini Wed 02-Apr-14 23:02:27

Well, Tegan, there's always George Galloway. wink

durhamjen Wed 02-Apr-14 23:02:59

Read his wikipedia entry, Tegan. I think that's the one that tells you about his wife. He thinks kids are the opium of the masses, so hope you do not have too many grandchildren.

durhamjen Wed 02-Apr-14 23:10:11

Petra, you need to read A Blaze of Autumn Sunshine, by Tony Benn. You would be amazed at how much walking and travelling he did when he was in his 8os.

POGS Wed 02-Apr-14 23:13:30

Durhamjen

What is your definition of the thought behind 'kids are the opium of the masses'?

durhamjen Wed 02-Apr-14 23:17:23

I think you know the point, Jane. Some people just want to be MPs and are not bothered who they represent.
In fact, reading about him, he reminds me of Grant Schapps, who is fond of embellishing things quite a lot.
Rory Stewart was an officer for a year in his gap year between school and university. It does not say if he was in Afghanistan then in the army. It would be interesting to find out.

Tegan Wed 02-Apr-14 23:25:40

anno; perlease noooo! I'd forgotten all about George 'pussycat' Galloway till now confused.

durhamjen Wed 02-Apr-14 23:45:56

POGS, I do not need to tell you my definition. Here is Rory Stewart himself.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2588500/Children-opium-masses-says-MP-Backbencher-hits-think-offspring-purpose-life-admits-wants-father-himself.html

POGS Thu 03-Apr-14 00:00:54

Actually this thread has made me look into his history and the more I am reading the more I like him.

We will have to agree to disagree.

janeainsworth Thu 03-Apr-14 03:18:34

Jen I thought most MPs decided firstly they wanted to be an MP, and then found a constituency to represent.

petra Thu 03-Apr-14 08:23:37

If memory serves me correct, when I heard him talking about his walk through Afganistan it was after he left Iraq.

thatbags Thu 03-Apr-14 09:20:42

Anyone who doesn't realise that the purpose of life is to reproduce itself is a twit.

janeainsworth Thu 03-Apr-14 09:44:25

Bags it's not the only purpose of human life, though is it?
Surely our striving for knowledge and understanding is what separates us from the rest of the animal kingdom.

Iam64 Thu 03-Apr-14 09:58:24

Bags, your comment about the purpose of life being to reproduce itself is a bit harsh smile. Our family is probably fairly typical, in that each generation has had members who failed to reproduce, despite a genuine desire to do so. Not everyone wants children, and I feel we should respect that choice.
Some of the posts on here suggest Rory can be accused of being a twit for some things, though I do like someone with a bit of adventure in their soul.

whenim64 Thu 03-Apr-14 10:37:34

bags' does have a point, as we wouldn't have those options if we didn't reproduce ourself in sufficient numbers to keep our species going.

Hmm hmm perhaps we should be thanking those large families who usually receive criticism for enabling some people to choose not to have children! grin

Tegan Thu 03-Apr-14 10:56:18

There is a strange sort of pressure these days for people to have children though, and not for the usual reasons ie baby bumps became fashionable and babies became fashion items. That became a difficult time for people who either couldn't have or chose not to have children. Have to admit though, that, with todays politicians being so totally guided by their spin doctors it's interesting to have a bit of a loose cannon in Parliament [other than the awful Farage bloke]. Guilty as I feel about it I'm still finding Rory fascinating; wonder what Spitting Images would have made of him; they'd've had a field day! He'd've been striding round Parliament with his Afghan hiking clobber on grin.

thatbags Thu 03-Apr-14 11:25:07

Of course my comment is a bit harsh and of course I don't mean it is the only purpose that we can give to our lives, but it's a fitting response to a politician's silly comment about opium of the masses.

thatbags Thu 03-Apr-14 11:27:02

I despise these clever dick twerps and their snooty dismissal of ordinary people.

Tegan Thu 03-Apr-14 11:51:20

But the press are too quick sometimes to pick up comments from people without giving the background to that comment. It's not his fault he was born into the higher eschelons of society and, unlike a lot of them he's trying to understand life 'on the other side' [not like Cameron who pretends to be 'just call me Dave,ordinary man of the people' who just happens to be stinking rich and priveliged]. Can't believe I'm defending a Toryboy; can only blame it on my age or something blush. I mean, I even like Michael [Tim, nice but dim] Portillo these days. Obviously key to success is making tv programmes wink.

thatbags Thu 03-Apr-14 11:55:39

I did wonder about background and meeja distortions, but if he said it he's still a twerp in my book. If he's clever hmm and has had opportunities most people never have, he should be more careful of what he says in public. Otherwise, he's a twit, as I said.

Iam64 Thu 03-Apr-14 17:19:39

Ok bags, comment accepted with grace (the one about the purpose of life that is).

durhamjen Fri 04-Apr-14 00:17:13

Just seen your comment, Jane.
I believe that most MPs are politically aware and decide to become MPs after being local councillors. That's certainly the case for all but two MPs in Northumberland and Durham.
The only MP who had stood for other constituencies first before coming to the North East is Guy Opperman, who stood for Swindon North and Caernafon before coming to Hexham. He also happens to be the only Tory MP.
Helen Goodman had no connections to the North East, but all the others were miners, union reps or councillors here first.
Some of them came here to university and stayed, but most of them were born in the North East and represent people they know.
But I think you know what I meant.

janeainsworth Fri 04-Apr-14 08:10:33

jen will you please stop accusing me of knowing what you mean just because I have questioned one of your unsubstantiated statements.
Perhaps my views are coloured by the fact that Guy Opperman is my MP, but I don't think the North East is typical of the rest of the country.
Maybe we are just unlucky in Hexham.
A previous one was Alan Amos who was elected as a Conservative, but later transferred his allegiance to the Labour Party mid-term.

POGS Fri 04-Apr-14 18:00:18

I still like him and I like to hear him speak in Parliament.

He was selected through the open primary process.

I think for a young man he has already led quite a fascinating life for heaven's sake.

Surely MP's come from all backgrounds, not necessarily miners, postmen, ships stewards nor councillors. I think of them as doctors, business men and women, ex forces, housewives etc.

It would be a bloody great big cock up if they were not from various backgrounds surely.

durhamjen Fri 04-Apr-14 23:13:46

Most people's statements are unsubstantiated, Jane. They are just points of view.
POGS, I was giving a list of MPs in Northumberland and Durham, and substantiating my previous statement as Jane had commented on it. What I was saying was that they tend to represent the people they grew up with, rather than be parachuted in to a safe seat in the party. I was not saying that all MPs had to be miners or union members, although it does help in the North East.