Scotland YES or NO

For once I am in agreement that the Scottish Parliament Building is an eyesore, built in a hole, with no room for nearby parking. I call it Donald Dewar's folly, because it was he who chose the location and design. I have been there twice and discovered that there is only one miniscule lift (for disabled access), the back bench MSP's offices are tiny and that some of the windows cannot be cleaned because of their odd positions and are consequently filthy. I always thought that the UK parliament should have been based in the North of England so that it was easily accessible from all corners and similarly that the Scottish Parliament should have been located somewhere near Perth. I do apologise for the waste of taxpayers money in Scotland and throughout the UK but in mitigation must mention that the building was commissioned BEFORE the Scottish Parliament was elected and they were stuck in temporary accommodation for years as they struggled to get the monstrosity completed.

England will not have an NHS, Nfk.
Although Scotland runs its NHS, it is given money by the UK government to do so as a percentage of the tax take. If Scotland can decide on its own tax, it can also decide on how much to spend on the NHS.
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Yes I think its such an ugly building. My daughters living in England and all of us, are having to pay towards the UK not wanting Scotland, to be Independent. I wonder if the SNP even thought about the cost to all of us.

I remember reading, newest' that the awful-looking Scottish parliament building finished up 10 times over budget, paid for by the poor old UK taxpayer.

Just watched old Chic Murray telling jokes on YouTube. Those were the days. White Heather Club with Moira, Kenneth and Andy. Now its the great debate on BBC1. Lets see what the Scottish youngsters think. Wonder which way old Chic would have voted.

I would like to know how much money the SNP have cost the whole of the UK with their plan for Independence

I think I have the same fears as you do regarding the NHS in Scotland, nfk, independence or no. Time will tell. In the meantime #hope.

Funded by that magical pot of money!

You think so Durhamjen?

At least if Scotland votes Yes they will still have an NHS in ten years time.

No, it doesn't sound dramatic, Iam64.

If a once united country can become so disunited so rapidly and with the threat of it becoming permanent, then what hope for other countries where there are even more disparate sections of society?

Catching up on this thread, and pleased to see it's calmed down a bit in recent posts.

Elegran - why aren't you in charge of this!? I'm still hoping for a No vote, on the basis that if we can't stay together, I feel demoralised about any hope of peace in war torn countries. I know that sounds dramatic, and apologise for that. I'll try and get a grip!

To see who trusts who, read this.
https://fullfact.org/scotland/which_politicians_trusted_scotland_interests-35064

Of course it has, papa

Federalism seems to have worked very well for Germany, rosequartz.

aka The thread I was referring to bags was entitled English GNs referendum. I was simply noticing that the OP had disenfranchised our Welsh and Irish GNetters by her 'slip'

Thank you for speaking up for those of us in other parts of the UK, aka. We are often forgotten in this debate and the decision could well impact more on Wales and NI than on England.

So a shifty Salmond on the ropes today after trying to be a mini-world statesman. Came across like a startled hamster caught in the headlamps. Not so much to smirk about with confidence draining away and no proper plans yet. Time is running out for him, I feel.

I've always thought, petallus, that the future of the UK should be a federal one, with proper representation for all its people.

Anyone who is a real Europhile will be agitating for that to be the way forward, of course. Smaller and smaller regions with less and less power, all answerable to the might of Brussels.

Granny23 Note for those who don't have 'pieces'

Only just catching up with this thread (will read the rest in a minute) but just had to say that I am English, brought up in England, but can remember asking for a 'piecey' when I was little.

As I've said previously I'm not contributing to this thread any more, there's just no point, I've said what I think and have nothing more to add, but I just thought I would say that it's nice to hear from you Jane10 and to see that you are a bit more optimistic. I rather gathered from what I've read and heard that the NO brigade are keeping a low profile in certain areas, and from what you say that would appear to be the case. Fingers crossed that it all works out for the best whichever way it goes both for you and for everyone in the UK.

I have just heard that if there is a Yes vote, the government will not dual the A1. As we've been asking for it for decades now, and as this government actually cancelled it, big deal.
They will be punishing those who live in Northumberland for the Scottish vote!

Feeling a bit more optimistic today having heard about the big institutions preparing to bail out and literally billions of money already transferred out. Surely, surely, surely people will be seeing what economic suicide it would be to vote yes. Still no real answers from Salmond to economic questions.
I refrained from responding to posters doubting the veracity of previous posts. I wrote as I found. Just because another poster didn't see what I saw doesn't mean its not going on. There is so much unpleasantness that No people are just not sticking their heads above the parapet. This was even commented on during the BBC 6 O`clock news.
Fingers crossed for the 19th Sept so we can just get back to some sort of normal. I just wish that all the upset to the rest of the UK hadn't happened far less what has happened up here.

Haven't some leading bankers said the same about the pound?

Galen I am not so sure tat the idea of the pound is so cut and dried. The party leaders might say so now in order to get a No vote, but they will be punishing the English as much as the SNP.

https://fullfact.org/scotland/will_scotland_keep_pound_scottish_independence-34099

https://fullfact.org/scotland/what_devolved_powers_scottish_parliament-35025

A link about the extra those who say no are being offered.

Papaoscar, Cameron did not exactly get a mandate to run the UK. At least from what I have read about 80% of the Scottish people will go out and vote.