Michael Wheatly

Penstemmon

I am not being rude but I don't understand your post with relation to Wheatley and what his crimes were.

I hope he will be given realistic prison time this time around. I doubt if he will be in an open prison for a while.

Non violent fraudsters. Crime against property/finance often get what appear to be comparatively harsher sentences than crimes against the person. Perhaps fraudsters are easier prisoners to manage.

I hope they lock him up and throw away the key!!

Makes me wonder if he is in open prison, who on earth are in top security ??

Tres bizarre !!

Hmmmmm

On the surface it does seem odd that he was already in an open prison and obviously on some programme to prepare him for release. I am sure there will be lengthy investigations into the assessment that got him to this stage. Good job he has been apprehended without major harm to others.Well done to the police and to whoever 'told' where he was!

Well - he has proved that he will re-offend, so they should bang him up for life - he does after all have 13 life sentences.

I cannot believe that they ever let him in an open prison given the nature of his crimes. I would suggest any criminal profiler could have predicted his dangerousness and the likelihood him repeating his offences. It's the sort of mistakes that is made with those men who seriously abuse partners, are then released and go back to kill.

Yes, and I doubt whether he'll be getting any more 'holidays' from prison in the foreseeable future!

Good news POGS

Better obviously means begger. B----y spell checker.

GOT HIM

Thank goodness he only had time to rob one building society this time.

The cheeky better had 'done' the Chelsea before.

Ana I know you weren't accusing I was apologising for my stupidity

I thought they only suspected the PO was him.

GNs, Michael Wheatly, as you probably all know turned up in Twickenham last night, which is a couple of miles from where I live. I have just come back from taking my granddaughter to a park very near where I live and was talking to a mum with her little boy when we noticed a police helicopter hovering overhead, the woman I was talking to said they are looking for Michael Wheatly. Have just heard he has robbed a Post Office in Sunbury also a couple of miles away.

I wasn't accusing anyone of anything, just pointing out that he didn't actually walk out of the prison grounds or anything. I don't know why he was out on licence, but if he's so dangerous, why was this allowed?

Yes, guilty as charged Ana I don't know why I put that. I know he was on day release.
Sorry.

Oh

No, I know you didn't say that POGS, but the OP did!

Ana

I didn't say he had absconded.

I was however pointing out the open prison system can be a danger. It must be reviewed and has required doing so for years.

It was said on the news last night that open prison and then day release are the normal procedures to prepare someone for release into society.
When it comes to perpetrators of this nature, this procedure is a farce !

The fact is he was out on temporary licence and failed to return, so he didn't actually abscond from the prison itself. The question is, why was he allowed out at all?

He had 13 life sentences for serious crimes of a nature that could have killed and have lasting problems for those he attacked. Why was he given such a short amount of prison time? He is a danger to society.

Max Clifford was given 8 'consequative' sentences.

I am not saying Clifford's sentence was right or wrong but the use of 'consequative' sentencing is used as rare as the proverbial rocking horse ----

I understand the open prison system but time after time we hear of it being abused.

I think if we were informed 'every time' a prisoner has absconded from an open prison we would be shocked to know the truth. Even more so if we were told how many commit a crime, some of a serious nature, whilst they are either an absconder or on day release.

.... and a known recidivist! Open prison simply a stupid idea, but part of the processing of prisoners, I suppose.

Beggars belief doesn't it?