Anti-Jewish double standards

I am saying that if Israel withdrew from land it is not entitled to occupy it would help. They are being bloody minded as much as Hamas continuing to fire rockets.

This would seem to say not

Yes. But they could probably rustle up a few loads of little rockets.

North Korea, now there's a horrible thought. But I think their shows of military strength is 'all fur coat and no knickers'. Didn't their one and only attempt to launch a missile into space end in trial humiliation?

Definitely not Turkey. They were the first Muslim country to acknowledge the State of Israel.

so wrong

I hope this doesn't happen

Turkey? Qatar?

Other Arab nations? Syria? Iran?

Of course we condemn the disproportionate response. But it was made clear on tonight's news by a Hamas spokesman that they intend o keep firing rockets too.

A point I need clarifying. Who supplies Hamas with arms?

Yes. We can condemn the disproportionate response by Israel.

But we can condemn the cruelty. Loudly and clearly!

merlot, we haven't got the answers! It all seems impossible.

It's not anti-Semitism. More like anti-bullying.

So what you are saying, Penstemmon is that Israel should stop all hostilities with Hamas because it can afford to protect its citizens with a powerful defence system.

Hamas will carry on firing rockets into Israel which won't matter because Israel is a wealthy country.

What will that achieve?

I do understand that people are fed information by a highly sophisticated PR and media regime but I still find it shocking that educated people do not unxerstand how powerful and wealthy Israel is compared to Palestine. That power buys defences which easily intercept the Hamas rockets. Palestine has no defences to protect its people against Israeli attack. It is onits knees. All it can do, not to feel totally humiliated is to resist. I don't know what people expect them to do... give up their hopes for a free home???

nigglynellie All the aid agencies and most of the commentators attest to the fact that it is impossible for the Palestinians to evade these bombings - a huge number of people have been squeezed into a very small area and there is no escape.

I agree with jingle that the Hamas rockets are but a pinprick as compared to the terrible might of the Israeli military machine.

As for propaganda, Israel is known to have a sophisticated PR machine that is very active in the US.

This is a link to a longish film which analyses how this propaganda machine is used to present a false picture to the American people (who need to be kept on side as they are, through their taxes, giving massive amounts of aid to Israel) as to the causes of the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians. You may say "oh well, it will just be Palestinian propaganda". But most of the contributors are actually Jewish or Israeli and include a former senior member of the IDF and two rabbis.

www.zengardner.com/american-israeli-propaganda-cabal-exposed/

The 'ordinary people' voted Hamas into power.

Gaza has been under siege for years. The Gazans have suffered daily abuse and humiliation from the occupying forces. They have asked time and again for their land to be returned and for settlements to stop being built on land that theUN recognises as not belonging to Israel. Israel refuses to follow UN requests. When the oppressed country tries to fight back against a far more powerfu countryl and with more sophisticated weapons they are painted as the unreasonable ones. Tbh Pestinians have little left to lose. I understand how resistance forces can get support. I don't like it but I can understand how it has happened. The reason Israel wants Gaza is because itis coastal. West Bank is landlocked. Strategically Gaza is better land.

Yes that is exactly why we don't see the same devastation in Israel. 'As you say Israel protects it's citizens, Hamas actually use theirs as a weapon and propaganda headlines - what awful people they are!

The only reason we are not seeing death and devastation in Israel is because Israel protects its civilians

The ordinary people are not to blame and should n't be punished so horribly.

I hate to see cruelty to animals. But to mention a donkey in a thread about the suffering of humans... Well, no words really.

Are you for real - 'sod the donkey!' - Have you no pity for helpless abused creatures? - not even a little bit?! There are no excuses, just bare facts. Israel has been under rocket attacks for heaven knows how long without retaliation. Hamas has dug tunnels in order to cause terrorism inside Israel, their avowed intent is to wipe Israel and every Jew off the face of the earth, and they are blameless for the present catastrophe?!! What complete rubbish is that.

In fact I don't see why there has to be any precedence.

Of course the suffering of children takes precedence but the human heart can also be saddened at the sight of cruelty to a defenceless animal.