Anti-Jewish double standards

There can be no excuses. War crimes.

The suffering of a donkey is, I think, very sad but for me it's the suffering of the children that takes precedence.

Perhaps these pictures will get the donkey out of your mind

No, of course no one is suggesting that! What is suggested is that the government of Gaza (Hamas, a terrorist organisation) is deliberately antagonising it's much more powerful neighbour, failing to protect it's citizens against the inevitable reaction of that neighbour, unbelievably placing weapons of war in built up areas, hospital schools, and just about every public place, so that containing this antagonism is virtually impossible without causing carnage (what wonderful propaganda) and yet they are 'blameless'! What complete poppycock is that! and yes Isis, or I.S as they are now called infiltrating Gaza would be a worry, a big one, for Israel! as potentially having them as neighbours would send shivers down anyone spine! I have no trouble at all in defending Israel!
No, I didn't see the donkey, and I'm glad I didn't. Perhaps the awful treatment of animals sums up the treatment of people who don't fit the religious requirements of the moment!

For God's sake! Sod a fucking donkey!

Whatever Hamas does to the Israelis is a pin-prick compared to what is being done to the ordinary Palestinian people, by the Israelis.

To say that Palestinians need keeping in their place or else they will turn into ISIS types, is wrong.

jingl, your post of 18:29. I don't think anyone is suggesting that all Palestinians are evil, vicious thugs but Hammas does not serve its people well.

Not just at the moment, whitewave. When I lived in Aden in the fifties, Camels were treated extremely well as they were a valuable commodity but donkeys were often abused and starved.

Did anyone see the little skeleton-thin donkey with a broken leg being beaten by it's owner? It was in Gaza. - I simply can't get it out of my mind and seems to sum up everything that is wrong with the world at the moment

Israel likes to portray itself as the victim of Palestine but it is Israel that has ignored dozens of UN resolutions condemning its behaviour, both in relation to its treatment of the Palestinians and in relation to its incursions into neighbouring countries. Resolution 446 stated that Israel's settlements were a serious obstruction to peace and called on Israel to abide by the 4th Geneva Convention. Resolution 465 deplored Israel's settlements and asked member states not to assist Israel's settlement programme. Resolution 5 strongly deplored Israel's policies and practices denying human rights of Palestinians ...... and so it goes on.

The USA (with the unwavering support The Marshall Islands, Palau and other countries almost entirely reliant on the USA for aid) has vetoed any demands that action be taken. The US continues to back Israel and is the only country to vote against a UN resolution against the killing of civilians in Gaza and the setting up of a war crime enquiry (The UK abstained).

They are mostly ordinary people, like us.

Are you really saying that all the Palestinians that have been bombed out of their homes and livelihoods, as well as losing loved ones, are all evil, vicious thugs?

Think again.

Or just think.

"When not kept in check these nutters turn into groups like ISIS"

What a ridiculous thing to say!

How can anyone defend Israel after what they've done, and will probably re-commence doing shortly?

Unbelievable.

And it's a completely separate issue to what ISIS are doing.

You're welcome dorsetpennt, and in answer to your question about the flag, I would say undoubtedly!!!!!

At last sense nigglynellie thank you I thought I was flogging several dead horses here and getting thoroughly upset in the process. Reuters has announced that 500 Yazidis have been murdered by Sunnis in Iraq, men, women and children - some buried alive. OK Glasgow have you an Iragi flag you care to fly or do you just save it for when you disagree with Israel ?

Probably.

If Israel are the monsters here, why aren't they 'attacking' the West Bank? or attacking and invading other Arab countries? As far as I can see Israel only sends In the big guns when they themselves are under threat, which, lets face it, dozen of rockets being fired on your country year in year out, tunnels constructed with the sole purpose of causing murder and mayhem to your citizens would, I would have thought be deemed to be a threat! But perhaps I'm wrong!

Constantly bringing up Islamic extremism in relation to Gaza is very unfair on the Palestinians - don't forget they are under occupation, illegal occupation.

As I said on another thread, what would this country have done if we'd ended up under occupation - just meekly accepted it? I don't think so.

What's going on in Syria and Iraq are nothing to do with Israel's consistent massacres of the Palestinians.

Lumping together all middle east scenarios is as stupid as connecting say the Serbian atrocities in Yugoslavia and the troubles in Northern Ireland ..... all European and all Christians.

No, of course it doesn't, and you can totally understand that Israel is particularly hardened to attack having been under it for the past 66 odd years! I suspect I.S is already in Gaza whipping up trouble as it would seem that, from some reports, that Hamas is not only putting it's citizens in extreme danger, but actually killing people making it appear that their deaths were caused by Israeli action! I don't know if this is true, but it wouldn't surprise me, as surely no country on earth would deliberately expose it's people to such danger without first making provision for their protection. Hamas agenda is the destruction of Israel and everyone in that country and certainly not the defence and protection of it's own countrymen.

Yes Bags you do well to remind us that Hamas and Isis are brothers in extreme Islam.

To families who have lived, worked & been a part of the culture and landscape of a place for generations it is still 'their' homeland no matter which invading army or distant ruling group lay claim. I agree that a peace needs to invove a two state solution. That needs all involved to recognize the pain on both sides. Israel's current government does not want to restore land taken in earlier conflict. Hamas will not negotiate until this is agreed. Stalemate. The current disproportionate response from Israel has not been a positive ontribution to peace.

Yes, and whatever happened after WW2 does not justify extremists chucking rockets into Israel practically non-stop since then because they hate Jews.

When not kept in check these nutters turn into groups like ISIS.

There remains the belief that Jews took land from Arabs at the end of WW2. This was not the case. There was a large jewsh community living there already, in reiative peace. The land was partitioned. Neither race had a 'homeland' there, in fact until 1918 it was ruled by Turkey, then under a mandate by Britain. Various treaties 'promised' both nations a home there, but nothing materialise until Isreal took matters into it's own hands and declared the State of Israel.
Granted Isreal has taken extra land since then. But the idea that after WW2 Jewish people were 'given' a homeland at the expense of Arabs or Palestinians is not correct historically.
Did anyone actually read my link?

There are people in Glasgow of many different faiths and opinions (DiL can get kosher meat in Manchester and Glasgow, but not in Edinburgh). To single out one is to align Glasgow - and by extension all of Scotland - with one polarity of this very confused and complicated situation.