Cliff Richard - shock!

The opening bars of 'Move It' remind me of my first weekend home from boarding school. My brother was playing it as I walked in the door and I briefly changed allegiance from Elvis to Cliff.

And I prefer Willie Neleon

Nice one whitewave

I prefered Elvis

Sorry *Breeze, I LOVE Mistletoe and Wine!

The problem is there is a seemingly open desire in a lot of cases for the 'Kangaroo Court' syndrome.

You have to look no further than the failed attempts to discredit the reputations of the likes of Leon Brittan/Christopher Jeferries for example. It's a very difficult call to make as on one hand it is a travesty of justice to name without enough evidence and the other hand says but it might bring forward potential witnesses. Both fall flat on their face when it is tantamount to a withch hunt or as with Cliff so openly collusion on behalf of the Police with the press from the outset when entering his home.

I will not argue that the wording in such apologies if taken literally verges on vocal dexterity but it is now so common place I do see it as 'a conclusion' and a statement of all innocence.

We'll have to agree to disagree musically but I'm with you on what's happened to him (and others) re the slur on his reputation Nonnie. It was very wrong to make it public before any proof.

Breeze well you should it's really lovely

Some people eh?

Sorry Nonnie. Can't bear to click on the link. Please don't make me! It could be the dreaded Christmas song, shiver, it could be the one where he is dressed all in leather bopping away with a bit of designer stubble, or, da da da, singing Summer Holiday all jolly. My ears, my ears!!!

Oh shoot! No record player. [smle]

I've still got Livin' Doll on vinyl. I'll play that over and over.

I'm no Cliff fan, but what happened to innocent unless proved guilty?

jingle, you'll just have to be subjected to listening to Mistletoe and Wine, several times, or, maybe lots of times, over and over, as atonement for your crimes! Tee hee.

It's like he's been tarred but not feathered.
Don't name until there is conclusive evidence is what I say, then when there is none, there's no real harm done to a person's reputation.

Whenever his name gets mentioned now it will be this that springs to mind first, and I have to say there is one of his songs that is in my all time favourites and I'm not a fan.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfky_Av_ApY

It's wonderful

Look! I rarely think of the sodding man The Sainted Cliff, at all. So leave orf!!!

True .jungle, I don't want people thinking like you but sadly they do

I see Cliff has put a statement out on Facebook. I agree that people should not be named until there is enough evidence for a prosecution. Accusations are not evidence.

Sadly some people will still believe there's 'no smoke without fire' .....which scientifically is untrue.

My 'agree' was with Deedaa btw. That's the trouble when messages coming in 'willy nilly'! Everyone is entitled to their opinion jingly. As in my musical tastes!

Oh God! You don't want anyone thinking like I do anniebach.

Agree, and not only for Cliff; the witch hunts in the aftermath of the Saville affair went too far. Guilty until proven innocent it seems. If they did no wrong, people in the public eye will still always be doubted. Wrong, wrong, wrong. And there should be a time limit on prosecutions of this nature. As there are with other crimes. So if you don't report it after a number of years, tough. I am suspicious some of these people aren't just after their 15 mins of fame/compensation. Especially when the person is dead. Why come forward then. Still hope Cliff doesn't start singing about it though.

Sadly there will be many who thinks as Jingle does

I think Cliff is quite right to complain about the fact that they had named him before they had even interviewed him. Whatever happened to "A 73 year old man is helping police with their enquiries" ? Now Cliff will be left with people saying that it was a cover up because of who he is, which is worse really than going to court and proving it one way or another.

Welcome back Cliff. Now it is time to get Tony Blackburn's job back.

Should've been prosecuted years ago for assaulting people's ears.

Some chance of being " Innocent till proved Guilty " , maybe we should pull in our horns and give him the benefit of the doubt ?