Jeremy Clarkson

yes NanKate the opposite of the very disagreeable Mr Clarkson a welcome breath of fresh air

I might too * Campodol*. I first saw Guy Martin earlier this year in India driving some special motorbike. He was a nice young man, down to earth and very unlikely to punch anyone in the face.

just heard Guy Martin is favorite to take over from Clarkson, if that is true i might even watch it

The mind boggles! From what I've seen of Mr Tymon he seems rather a slight man, and I hate to think how much worse his injuries could have been if he had retaliated.

It's not as though this was an argument which got out of hand and led to fisticuffs, it was from all accounts just Jeremy Clarkson winding himself up into a massive temper tantrum and lashing out at the person he blamed for the fact that he couldn't have the steak he wanted.

Interesting indeed!
The thought of men physically fighting at work until recently fills me with bemusement.

I caught 5 minutes of Jeremy Vine's show on Radio 2 this lunchtime, and they were discussing this. I heard a caller from Liverpool said something along the lines of "this is what is wrong with men now". She wasn't talking about JK, but about the man he hit - she said that until recently, a normal man would just have whacked him back, and that would have been the end of it.

Interesting view.

And even then, instead of being contrite- he went on to insult the victim at length, using the most foul and insulting language available, on and on, and on.

Someone had to pull him away. Jeremy Clarkson had presumably not stopped.

Jane when people over think things they usually deride the obvious as 'simplistic'

so glad you can see it now, thanks.

So sorry granjura, I misunderstood , my apologies .

Exactly Anniebach-I TOTALLY agree- my post was in reply to those who have mentioned that if the attack lasted 30 seconds and Clarkson landed many punches, why was only the victim's lip hurt. Please read my post- I totally agree that there is NO excuse, only one criminal (GBH is a crime) and one vicitim here.

Exactly Anniebach-I TOTALLY agree- my post was in reply to those who have mentioned that if the attack lasted 30 seconds and Clarkson landed many punches, why was only the victim's lip hurt. Please read my post- I totally agree that there is NO excuse, only one criminal (GBH is a crime) and one vicitim here.

granjura , maybe a few other bruises ? One bruise is one to many , you may have covered your face etc, you have had days to think what you would do, talk to battered women , ask them how one blow to the face caused a black eye , a cut lip, a bruised cheek, simply because they didn't have days to think I will cover my face , curl up etc . This vile man had to be pulled off his victim , no one knows what they would do if a fat lumping bully lunged at them yelling abuse , people can freeze

No one has any right or any excuse to hit another person . If this had happened in a school sixth form and a master hit a seventeen year old student , would some say - well, we all know what it 's like to be tired and stressed

I am so cross at the excuses given for this violent mans attack , he was hungry, his employers should have kept him in control .the man needs a physciatric ward , not excuses

I fervently hope we are not now to be subjected to endless repeats of old programmes.

Bored of the whole Clarkson debacle now. Having read all the details, absolutely the sacking was justified, outrageous and boorish behaviour on JC's part, he really doesn't deserve to have the same initials as Jesus Christ, can't imagine him turning his other fat and rather flabby cheek! The victim has acted with exemplary dignity. Have to admit I'm not a fan of Top Gear, I know it earns the BBC squillions, but it's right up there with golf, cricket and snooker, just bores the drawers off me.

JessM- totally the opposite actually. I am trying to explain why the victim's face did not show further injuries from the (totally inexcusable and 30 seconds) attack.

I therefore totally agree with anniebach too.

I agree anniebach

Give it a rest granjura the man's medical records are confidential as you well know. Sounds like you are picking holes in the victim's story for no good reason. If JC had been an employee all details would have been confidential.
As it is the BBC no doubt have to tread carefully and follow legal advice to the letter.
Well said anniebach. I don't think any careful handling would have worked on this over-inflated ego. As every abused wife knows, tiptoeing round a bully does not work for long and you can only stand up to them if you have power of some kind (huge muscular brothers, financial power etc)

The BBC has called it workplace bullying, and, reluctantly, I have to admit they are right to do so. The sacking is justified.

One quick swing could well cause bleeding from a cut lip. The producer drove himself to hospital to be checked over. I guess his jaw could have been dislocated, even broken. I doubt there were any more injuries, but, yes, the hit, and the verbal tirade was bullying.

I hope the other two stay with the programme. I guess Chris Evans would be a good replacement.

anya I was trying to get beyond the simplistic view. I thought I had made it quite clear that it shouldn't have happened at all.

Well, going back to the 30 seconds and injuries. If I had been hit in the face with one first punch, I think I would have cowered and put my head down between my arms to protect myself- so other punches would have hit my back- mabe a few bruises and no other injuries. Try it- count slowly to 30 in your head- it is quite a long time.

Can't compare to Prescott- he was hit and retaliated by instinct, ONCE. Again, no excuse, but VERY VERY different.

Of course it would have been preventable if the bully had ever learned to curb his tantrums. Only one person was at fault here.

Of course its not acceptable to hit anyone. Of course none of this is acceptable. However ,my view is that this situation was predictable and preventable. I'm being pragmatic rather than literal when stating he behaves like a toddler. In fact all my comments are just being pragmatic. Life isn't fair. If the world was run by Grans I'm sure it would all be very different but unfortunately its just not. Yes Im64 looks like we wont agree on this - but don't worry it wont come to blows!

There were many witnesses Merlotgran , I doubt a stop watch was involved, what matters is a man was subjected to a tirade of abuse then hit until someone pulled his attacker off . For me it is quite simple , a person is free to carry out abuse or not , if it's acceptable for Clarkson it is acceptable for any one to hit out and the law on ABH should be scrapped . Men should be free to hit their partners.? Bosses free to hit their employees ?