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Should you vote tactically?

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Mishap Mon 13-Apr-15 22:19:39

I think that sometimes there is nothing else to do under this first past the post system.

I cannot vote Tory as their policies so not sit well with me;and in my constituency the Lib Dems were a credible alternative (but I do not think they continue to be as their role in the coalition has been so unpopular); Labour don't stand a chance here and never have. Nothing I do will stop the Tory candidate getting in, so I think I might vote green. The tactical vote would have been Lib Dem, but no longer.

whenim64 Mon 27-Apr-15 16:44:59

I'm not laughing, either. Like a good joke, though!

Gezzy9 Mon 27-Apr-15 16:34:54

Joke ! Whats green and goes up and down.
A frog in a lift!
Hope this hasn't offended any frog lovers!

Gezzy9 Mon 27-Apr-15 16:27:25

I think your joke is brilliant Pompa . Got any more! x

Anya Mon 27-Apr-15 16:19:10

Not remotely funny.

GrannyTwice Mon 27-Apr-15 16:05:26

Pompa - it wasn't just sexist, it involved violence to women. I actually don't care who found it funny, some of us don't and are permitted to say so ( although I know some posters think we shouldn't make serious points). As for sexist jokes about men, I don't find those acceptable either. I'm really pleased your 'joke' is staying because it's useful to be reminded about how low the level of acceptability is of some people about what is 'funny'.

pompa Mon 27-Apr-15 15:55:59

If you find it offensive, use the report button. It was not intended to be offensive and I doubt it was to many, Mrs P certainly found it funny. I don;t see comments about jokes being sexist when men are the object being commented on. I do not intend to ask for it to be removed as I don't see it should be a problem.

GrannyTwice Mon 27-Apr-15 15:12:18

Stop being so offensively patronising Maggie to dj. She clearly cares a great deal about a lot of issues, posts interesting links ( that you don't have to read) and is fully entitled to be on her soap box. What is about about some posters who seem to think that there should be no serious political points made on GN.
I don't actually give a flying fig about what you think of my posts - if they are unacceptable, report them. And fwiw, I feel sorry for those of you who think jokes like that are acceptable

magpie123 Mon 27-Apr-15 14:58:19

durhamjen I feel sorry for you, lighten up a bit and get off your soap box.

GrannyTwice I have found a few of your posts unacceptable of late.

GrannyTwice Mon 27-Apr-15 14:35:14

And of course I agree it's unacceptable. And fwiw, why does objecting to a puerile, offensive sexist joke mean you haven't got anything more serious to worry about? I can't speak for Jess but I would guess that like me, she's quite capable of worrying about more than one thing at once.

mcem Mon 27-Apr-15 14:06:44

Totally agree that this 'joke' is unacceptable.

durhamjen Mon 27-Apr-15 13:31:07

Once again, I agree with JessM.
And if you do not think that's serious enough, magpie, I feel sorry for you.

magpie123 Mon 27-Apr-15 13:15:34

pompa take no notice I think it's funny.

JessM haven't you got anything more serious to worry about!

JessM Mon 27-Apr-15 13:07:09

I find that an offensive and sexist joke pompa - because you couldn't tell it about a man, could you? It is making a joke out of violence against women.
Maybe you could consider asking GN to remove it?

Marmight Mon 27-Apr-15 09:58:32

grin grin grin

pompa Mon 27-Apr-15 09:46:11

BREAKING NEWS

Nicola Sturgeon is touring Perthshire in the First Minister’s chauffeur driven car.

Suddenly a cow jumps out into the road. They hit it full on and the car comes to a stop.

Nicola in her usual jaunty manner, says to the chauffeur : " You get out and check - you were driving."

The chauffeur gets out, checks and reports that the animal is dead.

" You were driving, go and tell the farmer," says Nicola, ”I can’t afford to be blamed for anything.”

The chauffeur walks up the drive to the farmhouse and returns five hours later totally plastered, his hair ruffled and with a big grin on his face.

" My God, what happened to you ?" asks Nicola.

The chauffeur replies : " When I got there, the farmer opened his best bottle of malt whisky, the wife gave me a slap up meal and the daughter made love to me."

" What on earth did you say?" asks Nicola.

" I knocked on the door and when it was answered, I said to them, I'm Nicola Sturgeon’s chauffeur and I've just killed the cow."

POGS Sun 26-Apr-15 12:10:14

Jess M

Can I ask where in the Fiscal Studies report/analysis does it say:-

'If we want less austerity and therefore to preserve the NHS in something like it's present form, then Labour is the best option'.

Is that your personal view or is it a stated fact?

etheltbags1 Sun 26-Apr-15 12:04:15

just stick a pin in the voting card.

POGS Sun 26-Apr-15 12:01:38

All parties can 'spin' something out of the Institute for Fiscal Studies Report to be honest.

If you want to know the truth about the IFS report watch it for yourself BBC Parliament 23rd April Institute For Fiscal Studies. It's very interesting andand more to the point 'non partisan'.

Not one of the parties is credited with giving specifics of their finances. UKIP came out the best of a bad lot but that's based on their getting an overall majority and being able to put their manifesto through. Lib Dems were 2nd for clarity but all 3 of main parties were critized for providing lack of detail.

Their report on the SNP was interesting, they say after 2018 there will be more spending cuts than Labour , more austerity under SNP . I know I will be argued with but watch it for yourself, not my words the IFS's.

They all tell you where they will give money away. None of them tell you where they will make cuts or raise taxes or borrow more money . There will be cuts and tax rises or we go back to more debt andand borrowing and revert to square one.

No votes in honesty I'm afraid.

magpie123 Sun 26-Apr-15 09:18:15

durhamjen that was a useful comment I must say.

JessM Sun 26-Apr-15 09:07:34

The scary assumption is that they are going to make all those NHS "efficiency savings" - When I worked in NHS 30 yrs ago we were making efficiency savings then. And they have been trying to do so every year since. Most of the costs are wages. "Go figure" as the Americans say.

Ana Sat 25-Apr-15 22:33:48

None of them keep their promises anyway.

durhamjen Sat 25-Apr-15 22:22:25

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dr-louise-irvine/nhs-funding_b_7104674.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

Tories are only promising £8 billion by 2020. Labour are promising £2.4 billion per year.

pompa Sat 25-Apr-15 21:53:08

Decision made, letter posted, can forget about canvassers now.

Ana Sat 25-Apr-15 20:52:50

Of course you do, durhamjen! grin

durhamjen Sat 25-Apr-15 20:51:24

Agree with you, JessM.

Labour might only be promising £2.4 billion on the NHS, but they are also promising to stop the privatisation, and stop the costs of privatisation of the NHS.