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Girls locked in their bedroom every night.....

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Mishap Tue 21-Apr-15 17:44:07

.......under a court order to protect them from their mother's paedophile partner.

Clearly we do not know all the facts of the case, so should not really comment, but I cannot help thinking that the fire hazard here is very serious.

The 2 girls have some sort of monitor device via which they can communicate their need to go to the toilet during the night.

rosequartz Tue 21-Apr-15 20:32:39

I should add 'little boys' too, but I was referring to this case in particular.

rosequartz Tue 21-Apr-15 20:31:17

Little girls need to be protected, but to invite such potential danger into your home is criminal.

Little girls also need to lead carefree, happy lives without fear from sexual predators. Sadly, some do not because perhaps no-one is aware of the danger they are in, but in this case social workers are well aware of the danger and imo are being negligent in their approach to this.

AshTree Tue 21-Apr-15 20:24:16

I saw this on the local news, and I could not believe what I was hearing. It is probably the worst possible situation for those girls. I simply cannot understand how any human being, let alone their mother could knowingly put them at risk in this way, putting her needs / desires / lust, whatever, above their safety.
This story is one of the saddest I've heard in a long while. It breaks my heart to think of those two poor little girls.

loopylou Tue 21-Apr-15 20:02:04

Or think he's 'changed'?
This thread has really made me want to cry with tears of frustration and such sadness for those children sad

Words fail me......

rosequartz Tue 21-Apr-15 19:53:14

We are not all like that thank goodness Stansgran.

Although I wonder if some women sometimes are completely oblivious or 'turn a blind eye'.

Anne58 Tue 21-Apr-15 19:52:49

Thankyou Ana

I tried to post truthfully without actually using the proper names of those concerned, but if it gets taken down, so be it.

We live in a cul de sac of 7 houses, the family concerned lived next door but one in a Housing Association property. My DS & Daughter inlaw were thinking about is as a "swap" as tenants of HA property can do this, but they were pipped at the post by another family looking to move from "up country" as they have elderly relatives living in the area.

Stansgran Tue 21-Apr-15 19:51:50

He's only biding his time isn't he? The things some women will do for sex or a live in bloke.makes you ashamed of being female.

rosequartz Tue 21-Apr-15 19:49:06

I am amazed at the response of some Gransnetters.

Would they be so complacent if it was their grandchildren who were in this situation? I think not. angry and sad

phoenix have sent you a pm

Ana Tue 21-Apr-15 19:46:44

I have no doubt your post will be removed soon, phoenix, but thank you for that first-hand account of the situation.

Not all newspaper stories are 'sensationalised' to whip up loathing and hatred where none is warranted - I'm amazed that some on this thread seem to think this might just be a storm in a teacup.

Anne58 Tue 21-Apr-15 19:44:52

PS Nellie only just read you post, so perhaps my post above may explain.

The childrens maternal grandmother (who has been worried ever since mother T "took up with" and them married M.) Rather interestingly, he took her name when they married, his surname was quite unusual, hers isn't.

rosequartz Tue 21-Apr-15 19:44:08

The voice of truth and sanity.
Thank you phoenix

I could weep for those girls, I feel quite emotional.
What some kids have to put up with is beyond most 'normal' people's comprehension.
Some tales are truly harrowing.

Anne58 Tue 21-Apr-15 19:41:02

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rosequartz Tue 21-Apr-15 19:40:56

Just to clarify: the link I posted above is from ITV so I would have thought it was presented in a fairly straightforward way and not from a newspaper which may be trying to whip up hysteria.

I would trust the opinion of the NSPCC over that of a young, well-meaning social worker any time.
(and I have worked with both.)

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 21-Apr-15 19:31:23

The NSPCC is against it. That'll do me.

Ana Tue 21-Apr-15 19:29:34

So you think it's fine and dandy for children to be locked in their bedrooms, petallus? Or are you saying it's all a pack of lies...?

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 21-Apr-15 19:28:54

It must be so creepy for those girls.

Stupid mother. hmm

petallus Tue 21-Apr-15 19:19:03

Hurrah for Nelliemoser!

Ana Tue 21-Apr-15 18:45:00

If the true facts are that the children are being locked in their bedroom every night to protect them from their paedophile stepfather, then I couldn't care less about hostile media coverage.

From the article it would seem that the children's grandmother contacted the Mirror because she feels powerless against the authorities who are allowing this situation.

I wonder what reason the children have been given for being locked in - which is enough to affect any child negatively in any event! angry

Mishap Tue 21-Apr-15 18:44:28

Indeed - as I said we do not know the full facts. And of course the media will whip things up.

But even at the level of fire safety alone this seems a strange decision.

Clearly he is still regarded as a risk to children or these "safeguards" would not have been necessary; so that is very puzzling.

Nelliemoser Tue 21-Apr-15 18:36:57

I have just looked at that article. It is totally unhelpful and typical of the media. Look at the style in which it is written! It is full of nasty innuendo and as we know nothing about the details they can easily get away with such speculation. It is written in a way to generate anger which could potentially do more damage to the children if their identity is discovered. My fears are that with the press whipping up public hate about these issues could cause potential problems for the children.

How on earth did this reach the press anyway? For the sake of the children's privacy we have no details.

We can only hope the courts have made the right decision and yes it is a worry.

Such risks are dealt with in many cases where parents who have had children under child protection orders have managed to turn around their lives and keep their families safe.
There are very big risks in all such situations but it can have far better outcomes than removing children from the home.

rosequartz Tue 21-Apr-15 18:36:24

Well, they and the police have turned a blind eye in so many cases that have come to light recently that you begin to wonder what they are for and if they are fit for purpose.

Ana Tue 21-Apr-15 18:34:57

And what about the social workers involved? shock
Surely this sort of 'arrangement' isn't condoned?

rosequartz Tue 21-Apr-15 18:34:50

www.itv.com/news/2015-04-20/mother-locks-young-daughters-in-room-so-she-can-live-with-convicted-paedophile/

She married him! shock angry

Social workers are 'monitoring' - are they there for 24 hours a day?
Grandmother is very upset and no wonder.
How could any woman want to sleep with a convicted paedophile? She must be sick.

loopylou Tue 21-Apr-15 18:33:00

I can't believe this! Surely she's being exceptionally neglectful and an utter idiot?

ginny Tue 21-Apr-15 18:30:49

I agree too. What is she thinking of ? That is if she actually has a brain to think with. Do paedophiles only 'attack' at night ? I hope they are never alone with him.