Dotsmam, there is no reason or excuse anyone can put forward which would or could defend the destruction of the mining areas of this country carried out by that witch and the damage to the North of England and Scotland
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Nicola Sturgeon not standing for election
(131 Posts)It's very rare I initiate a question on the politics thread but I cannot find out why Nicola Sturgeon is not standing as a candidate for the General Election.
I see it mentioned time after time this is the case but can somebody tell me or point me to a site that explains why and how does this work with regard to continuing to be the Leader of the SNP and continuing in the political arena.
I genuinely cannot understand how this works I must be missing something.
Could for arguments sake David Cameron or Ed Miliband not stand for election yet continue to be the leaders of their party and attend Westminster in their usual way?
How is this legitimate I am interested to understand the complexity of how she does not have to stand but continue in Holyrood, is it Scottish Law or some such a thing.
He must mean his career. It could certainly define the end of his career, but I doubt that he meant to say that.
durhamjen Yes, I saw that on TV and had to laugh at the way, realising his mistake, he quickly changed "career defining" to "country defining" (which makes no sense at all really).
Cameron's latest gaffe, up North, having told us we are all doing better under the Tories and will do even better if we only let him heal the North/South divide, he's now told us that this election is career-defining, when he really meant country defining.
I think I believe the first from him.
You are right it is the 6th verse rosequartz slip of the finger!
Anniebach - Thatcher has the similar affect on our household the bairns thought it was a swear word when they were wee! She asset stripped Wales, Scotland and the north of England but what she did to the miners was criminal.
I think it is the 6th verse of the National Anthem which refers to the 'rebellious Scots' which, of course, is never sung - only verses 1 and 3.
Here it is always followed by the beautiful Welsh Anthem.
Dotsmam, a word to the wise, I am the daughter, granddaughter, g granddaughter and g g granddaughter of coal miners , the T word is guaranteed to make me a teeny bit cross, well but more than a teeny bit
Sorry to go back a few days but I am only catching up now. Anno said "There is some concern in Scotland that a large number of the SNP candidates in the GE are inexperienced. The highly experienced Douglas Alexander (Shadow Foreign Secretary) is opposed by a 20-year-old undergraduate". I feel I must put in a word in support of Mhari Black who is the undergraduate you mention. She was brought up in a very political aware household and became very active in the YES campaign with her father and latterly with Jim Sillars and has been widely recognised as a 'rising star'. I would submit that although she has no previous experience of Parliamentary Politics ( which some might see as an advantage
) she has 20 years of experience of living among the people she hopes to represent, sharing their fears, hopes and dreams and gaining insight into the problems of the area (child poverty at 25%+) whereas the 'highly experienced Douglas Alexander' has led a comfortable (some might say privileged) life far removed from that of the majority of his former constituents.
Many of the SNP candidates are indeed first timers, but all have had to go through a rigorous selection process and face a contest against as many as 8 other contenders to win the nomination in each seat. Hopefully the 6 sitting SNP Westminster MPs + former MP Alex Salmond will be returned and will be there to guide the newbies and show them the ropes.
[thumbs up], Granny23.
The way the 'Unionist' politicians have been talking lately, England may soon cast Scotland adrift so your flag may yet come in handy.
Over a year ago I designed just such a flag, with the saltire removed and the red Welsh Dragon and Red Hand of Ulster added to the red St George's Cross, to illustrate what the 'Union Flag' might look like in the event of Scottish Independence. I thought it was rather fetching and christened it the RED Flag as it was no longer red, white and blue. It went down like a ton of wet sand at a Gransnet Meetup in Edinburgh. Some people do not 'get' my sense of humour.
www.kesva.org/index
This one works.
The mere mention of Margaret Thatchers name was enough to make my dear departed Mum swear,both my Mum and Dad worked in Ravenscraig and suffered in the demise of the steelworks in our area.
wish someone could draw a potential union flag with dragon and have a look at it on GN
really! At least Gaelic was banned because of an uprising! Just as a wee aside what are the Welsh thinking about a Thatcher museum? We don't need anything to remember her by we are still living with the fall out!
Sorry forgot, Welsh was first banned because it was decided the morals of the Welsh would improve if they spoke English !
Dotsmam , I so agree , the BBC grrrrrrr, the sports commentators are surely the most guilty.
Thank you Whitewave , I think the flag would benefit from a green square with a red dragon
Anniebach I see your point re the flag, but at least the second verse of the national anthem isn't about crushing the rebellious Welsh (it is about the rebellious Scots!).
Sometime I think that English people have problems separate being British from being English, this can be seen on the BBC all the time. I would never say Scottish when discussing the U.K. but the media seems to think the words English and British are interchangeable.
The French were large in 1066 in England annie, and England lost a lot of it's Anglo Saxon heritage.
Love your idea of a dragon ought to be a petition.
Gaelic was banned as a language (along with bagpipes, the kilt and highlanders having weapons) after the 45. This resulted in the language becoming almost extinct apart from in the more remote areas. It is being revived slowly but the resources spent on it can be resented, especially in schools. While it is part of the Scottish culture so is Viking Norse, Lowland Scots , and whatever the good old Picts spoke! It's all very emotive.
I am not referring to anyone here . I find it so amusing when I hear people in England being interviewed on immigration .
They must learn English if they want to live here
They should respect and accept our culture
We should not have their flag flown in our country - the U K flag which only honours three countries of the UK
I would like a red dragon slam in the centre of the UK flag and regret it would put many English into a state of hysteria
England's biggest problem is it has never been suppressed by another country as Ireland, Scotland and Wales have . If it had been I am sure the English would be more tolerant, understanding and respectful to the other three countries of the United Kingdom
Good luck to the Welsh and the Irish and the Scots and the Cornish who are trying to preserve the language. As long as we remember the DNA survey of the British Isles showed we're all more or less the same - except for the Western Isles. Language is one thing; race (a less useful human invention) is something else.
There is an MP from down your way who wants every official government document translated into Cornish. They would to make some words up, but that is the same for Welsh.
I suppose you have to listen to Welsh and Breton and someone then decides how it was pronounced. Some Cornish people are speaking it today and reviving it. I presume it is the correct pronunciation as they would have researched it carefully.
I think it is more similar to Breton than other languages.
What I am puzzled about is how do you revive a dead language I mean how do you know what it sounds like.
Our neighbours used to fly a Cornish flag in the garden.
(We live in Wales)
Whitewave my point was that these languages should not be allowed to die out, and I have always said that (but not forced on the whole population if they do not wish to learn it).
It is a pity that the last fluent Cornish speaker died in the 1700s (although I understand some still spoke it in the 1900s) and I hope it is being revived as a language by anyone who wishes to learn it.
My DGN knows some Cornish (self-taught I think) but as he is a fluent tri-lingual speaker with a smattering of about 3 other languages I don't suppose he gets much chance to use it since he moved away.
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