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I might vote Tory but that doesn't make me a bad person

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kittylester Fri 08-May-15 16:08:54

and I'm am really fed up of all the vitriol aimed at people like me. When did the country become so intolerant and judgmental? Why are we not allowed to hold different opinions? Debate is good and can achieve progress but insults just cause division confused

jo1book Sat 09-May-15 21:09:51

That was a wonderful reminder of Fraser; thank you
Rose.

Ana Sat 09-May-15 21:11:13

Don't you mean Frasier?

jo1book Sat 09-May-15 21:19:55

Of course, sorry,

How about this for a conspiracy theory. One of GNetters is a Funeral Director watching for hints of "Shuffling off mortal coil" before sending out appropriate literature.

Annoying old man for spending time on this. Better go and keep the peace.

rosequartz Sat 09-May-15 21:26:53

Private Frazer smile

Ana Sat 09-May-15 21:30:57

Oh yes rose - I wonder why jo1book accepted my erroneous correction? Sorry jo1book!

rosequartz Sat 09-May-15 21:33:47

So: who is growing horns and a tail?

rosesarered Sat 09-May-15 21:35:07

Oh you have all been at the cooking sherry, did you save any for me?Frasier? NO, definitely Private Frazer or even Private Fraser, we're doomed ah tell ye, doomed ,mon!

NanKate Sat 09-May-15 21:43:26

I don't know if this has been said before, so apologies if it has, but I feel sorry for the party leaders who resigned yesterday, even though their politics did not match with mine.

Ed Milliband, Nick Clegg and Nigel Farage all worked extremely hard and it must have been tough for them to see their efforts go down in flames.

I personally am electioned out out and would like a change of topic on BBC News 24.

rosequartz Sat 09-May-15 23:39:06

And on here? NanKate good idea.

The sherry was in the trifle rosesarered!

durhamjen Sat 09-May-15 23:57:57

Don't watch news 24 if you have had enough of the election.
Don't go on the politics forum if you've had enough of the election.

Dead easy, really.

GrannyTwice Sun 10-May-15 00:01:05

Well well well how very strange this all is. GN is a forum. On the forum there are many boards. One of the boards is called Politics. There has just been a GE. Some people are very disappointed( to say the least ) with the result. Strangely, they come onto the forum, and start or contribute to a thread on the politics board about this. ( I know, I know). So those of you who don't want to discuss politics can just f* o**. Ooohhhh GrannyTwice how rude - clutches pearls.

GrannyTwice Sun 10-May-15 00:01:47

Dj x- posts- yours was so much more succinct however

FarNorth Sun 10-May-15 00:06:47

Yours provided some much needed rudeness, tho, GT. smile

durhamjen Sun 10-May-15 00:10:40

I try not to swear, FarNorth, but I agree with you.

GrannyTwice Sun 10-May-15 00:14:23

I did try to explain it simply to them about forums, boards and thread but hey ho. Perhaps dj could put up several links to the other threads as they clearly can't find their own way there. grin.

durhamjen Sun 10-May-15 00:23:11

Or maybe soon could give them a tutorial.
Sorry, I forgot, she's one of them, isn't she?

GrannyTwice Sun 10-May-15 00:35:58

She's much more entertaining. Soon flowers

soontobe Sun 10-May-15 09:21:41

I will be fair to everyone dj, but I am never a mug.

trisher Sun 10-May-15 10:14:48

It seems to be generally accepted just now that very few people who actually voted Tory are admitting it. The Telegraph blames the 'bullying left' (but they would wouldn't they)
I suppose at least GNs will speak up for what they believe.
(Apart from the infantile ones who seem to be regressing or something)

Gracesgran Sun 10-May-15 10:21:46

I haven't read the entire thread as "I might vote Tory but that doesn't make me a bad person" didn't seem to apply to me but it did make me think about what it meant.

To be honest the conclusion I have come to may not be a popular one. What is obvious is that this thread headline is complaining about a one size fits all view of those who "vote Tory".

However, I have to ask who has demonised the immigrants, painting them as stealing "our" jobs, stealing "our" houses and living off "our" benefits" when clearly this only applied to a very small proportion of them.

Who demonised those claiming benefits as out-of-work, lazy scroungers, willing to live off "our" taxes when clearly this only applied to a very small proportion of them.

Who demonised the sick as people without a work ethic, without the sheer will to stiff upper lip their way through small weaknesses, who use sickness to get benefits using "our" taxes to pay for them when clearly this only applied to a very small proportion of them.

The demonization of these groups, and there are more, was done by the right wing press. Why - because it was what appealed to their right-wing voters. So we now have a culture that doesn't account for the nuances of "people who" we just lump them together and spew our venom on the group. We do not trouble to look at them as individuals; our press certainly doesn't and the right wing have encouraged this.

So really, although clearly only a very small proportion who vote Tory are "bad" in the sense of this thread, I believe this group is reaping exactly what they have sown.

POGS Sun 10-May-15 10:22:03

Granny Twice
Far North
Durham Jen

You may find it amusing to tell other posters who do not conform to agreeing with you to F--K O-F as Granny Twice has told them too but do you really think that adds to your debate/argument.

Stansgran Sun 10-May-15 10:25:59

I think the problem is not that the Conservatives won but the people who lost don't believe in democracy #troubleoutsideDowning Street

rosesarered Sun 10-May-15 10:28:14

I think GracesGran that you are actually talking about UKIP voters.

Gracesgran Sun 10-May-15 10:32:10

Of course I am rosearered [ironic smile]

rosesarered Sun 10-May-15 10:43:19

Such a pity that there are so many sore losers about the election.