I might vote Tory but that doesn't make me a bad person

Following on from inane political comments from c'lebs, Lily Allen wonders what other country she could live in now that doesn't have a fascist regime like England under the Tories. I wonder whether she has any idea of what it is like to live under a totalitarian regime where people just disappear off the streets and live in fear of secret police. Maybe socialist Lily didn't learn too much about different types of governments and regimes when she was a pupil at Bedales, but no excuses in differentiating between a democracy and fascist regime now she's all grown up with squillions of followers on Twitter. It's one declaring a political allegiance but I really wish people wouldn't put out bilge like this.

But he was totally big-headed, and naive, in thinking he could influence the course of the election just by what he said. Did he really think he had such a huge and adoring fan base?

should have typed "it's one THING"

He proved himself quite simple minded really. Bless.

At some time we all have had a government that we didn't vote for!

Leicestershire Council will probably always be Labour, the wards are a mix of parties so I guess that's democracy. Can't change it , can't complain about it , it's how it goes.

And POGS, although it grieves me to say so, I think the dreaded Peter Soulsby is a really good mayor for Leicester and, if I could, I would vote for him!

Going back to the OP – why would you think the way you voted in a UK General Election might make you "a bad person? If you had lived in Cambodia and supported Pol Pot, maybe there might have been a bit of an edge – but all you did was vote Tory.

bags your comment about your friends and their views on RB reminds me of the old 'philosophical' saying 'All brains and no common sense' .

I did think that advert he did with the violin was very funny though!

However some people voted in this election in vast areas of the UK, they will have a different administration in charge of many of their public services.
The Scots should be happy in the main with their popular SNP party in the Scottish parliament with what could well be much increased power. And Labour voters in Wales should be happy that they have a Labour administration in charge of some of the main services.

So to those who voted other than Tory and are now complaining about a Tory government in Westminster - Tory voters in Wales could be feeling equally frustrated.

I don't mind anyone voting Tory if they will only admit exactly what they are voting for. As I see it there are two sorts of conservatives. The die-hard true blue who is quite often rich and privileged and who doesn't care about the poor or anyone less able to care for themselves, and those voters who have been conned into believing the current party line that if the rich get richer the poor will benefit eventually. Either way the poor, the underprivileged, the disabled and the homeless will suffer. If you are happy to look at the increasing numbers of people using foodbanks, the homeless families living in B&B temporary accommodation because of the lack of social housing and see that continue for the next 5 years well that's fine. But the idea that the conservatives are a caring party-well I'm not the one being conned.

Why should they have to admit anything to you, trisher? Are you the thought police? Why should they have to admit exactly why they are voting for any party to anyone?
It would seem to be a very rigid view of other people.
And a good reason for me to choose the exact opposite to you.

If we are going into semantics ok maybe we don't need admit, perhaps recognise would be a bit more acceptable to you. I still have more respect for the old fashioned Tories who don't think the poor matter than the ones who want us to believe that they really care, but accept policies such as the bedroom tax.

Someone like trisher irritates me no end. It is the whole attitude 'I am right and if only you were educated you would think the same'- with no acknowledgement that people can have the same information and come up with different conclusions. It is always ' they do this because they are conned etc'.

It is a time that the silent majority come to the fore. You can take all the noisy people who voice opinions on the Internet and think that speak for the majority but then you get a secret ballot and find they don't.

Russell Brand is a good example- he makes a noise and has thousands of supporters and it hides the fact that most people find him a self serving, hypocrite who isn't worth even listening to- a complete irrelevance.

Well said Leticia, that's what I was trying to say! We are accused of being uncaring or thick!

Absent, I think trisher's post might show you!

Hey Leticia the silent majority did come to the fore! Talk is cheap- actions speak louder than words. Their votes said it all! Thank God!

Terribull. I am always dismayed at the bilge put on the internet. I do wonder (in a gesture to be generous) if is a because it is a. late at night b. They're on drugs c. Drunk

An over simplified explanation trisher, I wouldn't categorise Labour voters into two groups, I imagine their supporters would encompass a wide spectrum of different attitudes, social backgrounds, aspirations and concerns. Neither would I ask them to justify why they had voted in the way they did with the implication that they don't really understand what they are voting for. I imagine that they had very good reasons for reaching that conclusion. We live in a democracy for heavens sake, in spite of what Lily Allen may think, and as such, it's part of that process that the electorate choose to vote for a party, that in their opinion, will do the best job in governing our country.

Interesting that it is only peronsal criticism that is being posted. Please can someone write why they support the policies
"if only you were educated"-Leticia-
Only an MA, PGCE, Tourist Badge and lots of certificates-SORRY

sorry personal

Did anyone actually read the literature from the various candidates standing for election in their constituencies? I did. I made my choice of who to vote for based upon these. It was the Conservative candidate who actually said what needed to be done in the constituency, the others just waffled on, giving the party manifesto, not what they actually thought was needed in this area. Therefore my vote went to the Conservatives. I am not rich, I have trouble making ends meet at the end of some months, but I think David Cameron is doing a good job.

Will apologise now Leticia misread your post - sorry -see I do admit mistakes. Everyone is teling me they have a right to their opinions and all I have said is will they tell me why they want to subject people to 5 more years where the poorest suffer. Dave can pretend he doesn't know about foodbanks but surely the rest of us do.

Ok. I voted Tory mainly because of Cameron's promise to raise the Inheritance Tax threshold. But also because I think they are on the right track with the economy, which I want sorted out before my grandkids come of age.

Trisher read Leticia's post again. You might have a great pile of certificates, but you can't seem to get the gist of a post on Gransnet.

I think you misread Leticia's first post, trisher. She wasn't accusing you of being uneducated...

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