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Labour Party, Lib Dem Party - where to now.

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annodomini Sat 09-May-15 20:26:46

Like you, GG, I was a founder member of the SDP but unlike you was also one of those who built the Lib Dems and was a local and regional officer and Borough Councillor. So much work in almost thirty years, so much canvassing, leaflet writing and delivering, organising local and regional parties. All down the drain, because the Lib Dems entered into a coalition with a party which was our traditional opponent, and somewhere along the line lost sight of its principles, becoming, at best centrist, at worst, right of centre. I left the party after about two years of coalition, largely because I could not stand the way English education was going under Michael Gove, apparently without any protest from his coalition partners. I should put it the other way round. It wasn't so much that I left the party, but the party left me. What of the future? It's good to hear that new members are coming forward. I am hoping that Tim Farron will be the new leader, and the one to take the party forward in a new direction, back to the left of centre position it should rightfully occupy.

whitewave Sat 09-May-15 19:52:20

With regard to the Labour party - of course they need to choose a new leader and I will be looking at the candidates in great detail before I vote but I think what is important is the direction in which the Labour party goes and the ideology it adopts. I have had some thoughts about it over the past couple of days - in fact we had a spontaneous family get together with the eldest being 97 and then ranging gradually down to 14 and there were a lot of ideas and opinions but one of the common themes is that whilst regarding it's traditional voters - the Labour party must attract the more aspiring affluent voter and to do this it must recognize and adopt a more modern approach whilst retaining it's values of fairness.equity and compassion. We didn't get much further as I am sure these ideas will be devoped over the next few months

Gracesgran Sat 09-May-15 19:33:31

I wondered if anyone had any thoughts about what these two parties should be doing to recover from the trouncing the electorate has give them.

I find it interesting that, by the end of election day 1,000 people had become new members of the Lib Dems and by the end of today it had gone up to 3,000.

My own hope is influenced by the fact that, in the past, I was a founder member of the SDP who didn't (until yesterday) become a member of the Lib Dems, although I voted for them. I would love them to remember their Social Democratic principles as well as their Liberal history.

A study of Social Democratic countries shows us that they do not stifle aspiration or wealth but that they have a strong feeling that everyone contributes to a highly socially conscious fund, drawing on it in times of need not as if it were charity but more in relation to what has been paid in and therefore an insurance. Obviously there is more to Social Democracy than that but it is a starting point.

I have heard people who are inclined to a left of centre point of view commenting on liking the idea of the Social Democracy proposed for Scotland and I think would be interested to hear more of this from the Liberal Democrats.