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Charles Kennedy

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Gracesgran Tue 02-Jun-15 07:25:56

Very sad to hear of the death of Charles Kennedy. A brave and very human man whose humanity both made him the a very able politician, in touch with people, and caused his demons. Originally a member of the SDP, his bravery during the Iraq crisis lead to him leading the Lib Dems to their greatest number of MPs since the 1920s.

durhamjen Fri 05-Jun-15 00:14:50

I like what Tom Watson did.

He spoke directly to Kennedy’s son, saying: “Your father was a very great man. He stood up for what he believed in, he led a party of the centre-left with dignity and compassion and when you are older you will know your mum and dad believed in a cause greater than themselves and you will be proud.”

tigger Thu 04-Jun-15 23:39:25

Brilliant politician - a rare human being who was able to combine a political and humane stance. A very courageous man and a sad loss.

durhamjen Thu 04-Jun-15 23:31:10

That's why Alastair Campbell's article needs reading. They were helping each other. He knew his weaknesses but his strengths too.

Anniebach Thu 04-Jun-15 21:34:56

When someone dies and we do not know the cause of death but knew the person smoked do we refer constantly to their smoking addiction? Unless the cause of his death is said to be alcohol related why the need to keep referring to it? I find no problem in paying tribute to the man without the need to refer to his drink problem , surely a tribute isn't meant to rake up weaknesses and or faults

Iam64 Thu 04-Jun-15 20:16:53

I agree Ana, and feel uneasy about the constant references to his alcoholism but it was a factor in him losing the leadership and in his divorce. I don't feel it's possible to pay tribute to CK as so many people are doing,without acknowledging his was dependent on alcohol. So many people's lives and families are devastated by alcoholism and it's rare that someone suffering from this disease is as universally respected and liked as CK has been.

Ana Thu 04-Jun-15 19:38:10

I agree, Anniebach. I'm not sure it's helpful to keep mentioning his alcoholism, either.

Anniebach Thu 04-Jun-15 19:28:35

His father died in April, he lost his seat after 32 years and saw his party almost demolished , a lot for anyone to deal with

trisher Thu 04-Jun-15 17:17:05

Don't think at any point I "blamed the government" Charles Kennedy made no secret of his dislike of Tory policies and it was this I referred to. The devastating effect of coalition on the Liberal party surely can't be disputed. If you regard this as "blaming the government" merlotgran then so be it but that is your conclusion, not what I said.

Tegan Thu 04-Jun-15 14:55:00

Not blaming the government but sickened by people being so disloyal to someone who pretty much devoted his life to them. They say he was ok about it happening but imo it broke his heart. Some people are alcoholics because they put so much into their work that it's the only way they can wind down; can't help but feel he was one of those people.

rosesarered Thu 04-Jun-15 14:08:23

Agree, Merlotgran.

merlotgran Thu 04-Jun-15 14:03:37

Nobody is to blame. He was an alcoholic. Sad that he couldn't conquer his demons but blaming the government? hmm

trisher Thu 04-Jun-15 12:12:58

Sorry don't think blaming his constituents is appropriate here. He was probably more upset by the 5 years of coalition with a party he hated and the resulting devastation of the Liberal party he loved in the general election. Personal disappointment might have affected him but probably wasn't his main concern.

baubles Wed 03-Jun-15 13:23:03

MPs are paying tribute to him now on BBC Parliament.

henetha Wed 03-Jun-15 13:06:31

Charles Kennedy was one of the few politicians that I liked and had great respect for. So sad that his life has ended far too soon.

daffydil Wed 03-Jun-15 09:49:46

I too am so sad to hear of the death of Charles Kennedy and agree with Tegan that his constituents should be ashamed at having rejected him as their MP this time.
As well as all his other fine qualities he had the guts to speak out against sending troops into Iraq when both the other leaders were in favour. He also had the courage to admit to his alcohol problem and his efforts to overcome it which I think earned him great respect.

baubles Wed 03-Jun-15 08:17:46

That was a beautiful tribute from Alistair Campbell, thanks for the link Grannyknot

Gracesgran Wed 03-Jun-15 08:00:03

I read that he did start with the SNP Jane and Nicola Sturgeon was very gracious about him when I heard her interviewed.

Do you mean you misread or that you read elsewhere kittylister. I did not comment yesterday when I replied to you because I just thought you had made a mistake and indeed, like most other politicians, NS had made a comment.

He joined the SDP while still at High School by the way.

baubles Wed 03-Jun-15 07:57:41

Such terrible news, he was a good man whose life was blighted by alcoholism. I'm truly saddened by his death.

Grannyknot Wed 03-Jun-15 07:43:04

Alistair Campbell has written very movingly about Charles Kennedy and "a shared friendship based on a shared enemy - alcohol"....

www.alastaircampbell.org/blog/2015/06/02/charles-kennedy-a-lovely-man-a-talented-politician-a-great-friend-with-a-shared-enemy/

grannyonce Wed 03-Jun-15 07:22:36

sorry meant NS

grannyonce Wed 03-Jun-15 07:22:15

NC may have been gracious (she is an astute politician even if I personally find her irritating)
but :
blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/06/alex-salmonds-reaction-to-the-death-of-charles-kennedy-was-as-revealing-as-it-was-contemptible/

kittylester Wed 03-Jun-15 07:08:32

I read that he did start with the SNP Jane and Nicola Sturgeon was very gracious about him when I heard her interviewed.

rubylady Wed 03-Jun-15 01:14:04

Very sad news, he always seemed a lovely man,

janeainsworth Tue 02-Jun-15 22:06:15

brenda Charles Kennedy began his political career with the SDP, not the SNP.

janeainsworth Tue 02-Jun-15 21:45:05

I'm so sorry to hear this. A double tragedy that he died so young, but also that his life was blighted by alcohol.